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And So It Begins: New York City Sending Out Gun Confiscation Notices
The Truth About Guns ^ | Nov 27, 2013 | Robert Farago

Posted on 11/27/2013 7:32:08 AM PST by Kip Russell

New York’s SAFE Act is a bad, bad thing. It requires people to register, sell or transfer (out of state) “assault rifles” and “high capacity” magazines. Many Empire State gun and standard capacity ammunition magazine owners have complied. Many have not. So, at some point, the State’s gonna go get ‘em. People on both sides of the law enforcement divide will die and the s will hit the fan. Meanwhile, there it is: the reason why expanded background checks, indeed all background checks and any type of registration, set the stage for confiscation. And tyranny.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; billdeblasio; bluezones; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; nyc
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To: Kip Russell

>>>Since these are registered guns...

1. Send out a letter such as the one in the OP.
2. If the gun owner doesn’t comply after a short time (say, a month), contact him again and explain that if he doesn’t comply, he will be in violation of the law.
3. Shortly thereafter, show up at his doorstep (with a SWAT team as backup) and order him to turn over his property.
4. If he resists, kill him.<<<

In NYC, I think they would start with #4 and work their way back.


21 posted on 11/27/2013 7:59:37 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
That notice is from New York City, not New York State.

I just copied & pasted the headline, should have read it more closely.

22 posted on 11/27/2013 8:01:28 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: struggle; Kip Russell
People on both sides of the law enforcement divide will die and the s will hit the fan.

This seems a bit over the top to me. I doubt the gun owners will resist with physical force. Maybe I'm wrong.

All that over a Marlin .22?

And an AR-7. A high capacity ammunition feeding device on one of those is kind of a moot point, since they rarely fire two rounds in a row without jamming (the ones I've handled anyway).

23 posted on 11/27/2013 8:02:41 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether the majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Kip Russell

we don’t need no stinkin mods :)


24 posted on 11/27/2013 8:06:37 AM PST by Revelation 911 (if "meat is murder" what is abortion?)
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To: Kip Russell

Pull out a copy of the Constitution and show it to the govt thugs


25 posted on 11/27/2013 8:16:45 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Hardastarboard
This seems a bit over the top to me. I doubt the gun owners will resist with physical force. Maybe I'm wrong.

I agree that it's over the top, and I don't think you're wrong. For all of the anonymous, "They'll have to carry me out in a body bag before I comply!" posts one sees on the internet, the fact remains that rather draconian gun control laws have been passed in a number of states, and we have yet to see a rash of "Unintended Consequences"-style resistance. The vast majority of gun owners have either complied with such laws or quietly ignored them while hoping to fly under the radar.

Heck, I'll give a personal example. Here in Colorado, a law was passed earlier this year that outlaws the sale or transfer of magazines that hold more than 15 rounds (8 rounds if it's a shotgun mag). Magazines possessed before the law took effect on June 1st are still legal, though. My response? Buy a thousand dollars worth of normal capacity magazines, some for firearms I don't even own (but plan to later). I'm in full compliance with the law.

Now, if a letter such as the one above was sent to me demanding that I either sell my mags/guns or turn them in, what would I do? It's extraordinarily easy to be a keyboard commando and say that you're going to fire the first shot at Fort Sumter in Civil War: The Sequel, but when the feces strikes the rotating airfoil...it's a bit different, isn't it? Especially when you look around and don't see anyone else resisting.

26 posted on 11/27/2013 8:18:09 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

Meanwhile the bolshevik government exempt rulers use and abuse our government against ourselves for its own off shored security and money.


27 posted on 11/27/2013 8:22:08 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Kip Russell

FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION


28 posted on 11/27/2013 8:23:00 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Kip Russell

I sold or traded off all that stuff at a gun show in Virginia.


29 posted on 11/27/2013 8:24:13 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kip Russell

But no one is talking Confiscation. /sarc.


30 posted on 11/27/2013 8:32:09 AM PST by StaffiT (It takes a special kind of stupidity to think criminals will obey gun laws)
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To: smokingfrog
I sold or traded off all that stuff at a gun show in Virginia.

Given that this is NYC we're speaking of, I'm not so sure that would work.

Officer: "Sir, our records show that you have 12 firearms that have retroactively been made illegal to possess. I'm here to confiscate them."

NYC Gun owner: (smugly) "I lost them in a boating accident 5 years ago"

Officer: "That being the case, you do have records showing that you reported the loss of these registered firearms to the proper authorities shortly after this 'accident', do you not?"

Gun owner: "I...er...uh..."

Officer: (getting out his cuffs) "You have the right to remain silent. Any thing you say..."

31 posted on 11/27/2013 8:33:50 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

Come and take it.


32 posted on 11/27/2013 8:48:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Shortly thereafter, show up at his doorstep (with a SWAT team as backup) and order him to turn over his property.

What would be the response to a sad story about that "unfortunate boating accident last summer?"

The (former) gun-owner has committed no crime - he has merely "lost" his (until then legal) firearms (and how can you be expected to "prove" that something has been lost?).

Could a judge legally issue a search warrant, even though no crime has been committed?

Regards,

33 posted on 11/27/2013 8:49:32 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Kip Russell

Of course they plan to confiscate all the illegal guns on the streets, right? That was their plan, right?

Wrong. Their plan is to confiscate guns from honest, law-abiding non-violent citizens and deliberately leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


34 posted on 11/27/2013 8:50:59 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Kip Russell

Is NYPD going to set up a special gun confiscation SWAT team?

Will they get hazardous duty pay?


35 posted on 11/27/2013 8:51:21 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kip Russell

Unconstitutional. See Heller.


36 posted on 11/27/2013 8:52:15 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: alexander_busek
What would be the response to a sad story about that "unfortunate boating accident last summer?"

See my response, #31 in this thread.

37 posted on 11/27/2013 8:55:36 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tgusa

I would love to see that as the response of every recipient of one of these letters: “MOLON LABE” written in black Sharpie across the face of the notice and mailed back to the NYPD.


38 posted on 11/27/2013 9:13:30 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Kip Russell

It is time to for conservative “community activists” to educate the public about the right of jurors to decline to convict when these cases come to trial.


39 posted on 11/27/2013 9:43:49 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Kip Russell
... but when the feces strikes the rotating airfoil...it's a bit different, isn't it? Especially when you look around and don't see anyone else resisting.

I agree. If I actually went out and did what many, including myself, write we would do I think about 90% of the people here on FR would call me a lunatic and the other 10% would say I was a patriot while sitting on their thumbs.

While a few may talk the talk the time is never right to step up to the plate and defend our liberties and freedom.

40 posted on 11/27/2013 10:32:08 AM PST by OldMissileer
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