Posted on 11/19/2013 8:08:13 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
The New England Patriots lost to the Carolina Panthers 24-20 after a controversial ending on Monday Night Football. On the final play of the game, an official threw a flag after Carolina linebacker Luke Kuechly appeared to interfere with New England tight end Rob Gronkowski in the end zone. If the pass interference penalty was called, the Patriots would have had one untimed play from the one-yard line to win the game. But the officials ended up picking up the flag, declaring the game over, and running off the field without an explanation. Tom Brady was furious after the game, chasing down the officials and cursing them out in the tunnel. There was a ton of confusion about this. ESPN's in-house refereeing consultant said it wasn't pass interference, but everyone else seemed to think it was a clear penalty.
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Uncatchable cuz ball was gonna be intercepted even if gronk could go back but that is debateable re: the pushing and holding. Either way: revenge of the tuck rule
He’s been crying to the refs for years, if he didn’t last night, he didn’t. Still doesn’t erase years of doing it.
He a know crier; look at what Terrell Suggs, for example, has said about him.
“...slander used by liberals everywhere to deface someone they dislike...”
Yes, guilty as charged. Sorry - couldn’t help myself. Full disclosure - I hate Brady because he’s sooo damn good and I don’t like their coach either. Please forgive my slanderous comment.
(But he’s still a fag:)
U R totally correct. In my mind the players needs both feet in the end zone while the ball must be in the air space above the end zone and must be in possession of the ball. All at the same time. Enough of these flyby or fade route touchdowns.
LOL, I know...I was just throwing out a lure...I usually don’t push buttons for the sake of pushing htm, but...I am weak and fallible!
No dog in the fight, but I think that was interference. The defender impeded the receivers path to the ball *and* was not trying to make a play in the ball himself.
In this case he hates cheaters. The Patriots were sanctioned by the NFL for cheating during their “championship” years.
You’re right in that all those teams that lost to the Patriots are by definition losers. But that doesn’t mean that they are required to like the team that cheated to win those games.
Patriots fans can get as mad as they want that other people hate cheaters, but that will never change the fact that the Patriots will be considered cheaters until the head coach that knew about and sanctioned the cheating is no longer with the team. They certainly don’t deserve sympathy for any calls that go against them, as that happens to every team at some point.
In this case he hates cheaters. The Patriots were sanctioned by the NFL for cheating during their “championship” years.
You’re right in that all those teams that lost to the Patriots are by definition losers. But that doesn’t mean that they are required to like the team that cheated to win those games.
Patriots fans can get as mad as they want that other people hate cheaters, but that will never change the fact that the Patriots will be considered cheaters until the head coach that knew about and sanctioned the cheating is no longer with the team. They certainly don’t deserve sympathy for any calls that go against them, as that happens to every team at some point.
My goodness! Howard Cosell sure was a homely fellow.
Hate the Spytriots but being driven backwards two yards by someone not playing the ball looks like interference.
While walking off the field he jawed with an official and clearly let off an F-bomb.
Whatever, it looked uncatchable to me. I commend them for conferring and picking up the flag. They could have called holding though.
Although, if the ball was in the air at the time, defensive holding can’t be called. Illegal contact is still on the table though.
Gronk *was* held in a way that prevented him from returning for the ball.Of course if it *had* been called theres no way to be *certain* that they would have scored in their one play....but the Pats do pretty well at the one yard line.
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If defensive holding had been called, the Pats would ahve gotten the ball on the 8. It’s a 5 yard penalty regardless of where the holding occurs. Interference in the end zone gets you the ball at the one, not holding.
Its very Democrat/liberal of Freepers to root against the Pats just because theyre good.
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It’s very democrat/liberal to assume you know why we don’t like the Pats.
Then you can go and create your own football league, and set up whatever dumbass rules you want.
It’s the location of the ball that matters, not the person holding it.
Unless its in the back of the end zone, in which case the ball doesnt have to break the plane in the field of play at all.
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Um, how did the ball get to the back of the endzone without crossing the plane of the endzone?
I think he’s referring to a receiver making a catch at the back (or side) of the endzone with his body in bounds even if the ball isn’t. I’ll admit it’s not entirely consistent, but the goal line issue comes down to: if you spot the ball at its point of forward progress, then how can you start a new play with the ball already in the endzone? If you don’t spot the ball at its point of forward progress, then what do you use to spot the ball?
How was the ball uncatchable when the initial second contact was an arms length from where it was eventually caught? The first, relatively minor contact, was by the guy who caught the ball, from behind the receiver.
It was uncatchable because Gronk was moving himself away from the ball. If he’d have tried to turn back towards the line of scrimmage (coming back to the ball) he’s have been interfered with, but he continue moving towards the end line on his own the whole time. The fact that he was moving perpendicular to the guy that caught the ball shows it was uncatchable, he needed to move in a different direction than he was.
Kindof hard to fight for the ball with your arms pinned to your side, and the defenders body against you without committing a penalty yourself, or even with committing a penalty.
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