Posted on 09/29/2013 12:57:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
The Republicans are colluding with the Democrats to delay Obamacare until January 2015 and thereby give the Obama regime a chance to smooth out the wrinkles so it works right. The delay will also keep the issue from hurting the rats too much during the coming year's 2014 mid-term election campaign.
Do some people actually believe that a "delay" is in any way a "win" for Republicans?
In return for giving the rats another year-plus to deepen the roots of their communist healthcare and get it working smoother, the Republicans will cave on the debt ceiling. What a deal.
Wow, are we ever being played.
Right on.
That’s because both Dems and Pubbies are collectivists. Collectivism only benefits the rich and the poor which those two parties represent.
The rest? BOHICA!
Betting that something bad will bring something better is a dangerous strategy. It can de-motivate people from taking action against bad things by letting them rationalize the consequences. And sometimes — often — the bad thing that happens stays with us for a long, long time.
Better to fight the bad things than to suffer them passively and convince yourself that they will lead to a better result as people wake up.
Neither are "we" -- meaning the informed citizens of America -- being played, because we see what's happening.
I’m OK with a delay of a year, but they are jumping to that as a fallback way too early in the game. A delay will get us to next year’s elections without letting this monster get its tentacles into us. Take it to the people, gain in the House and the Senate, then send Obama a full repeal as the first option for any spending in 2015. Keep the pressure on, and if there is any compromise at that point, it is for a full defunding for an additional 2 year, to 2017. Obama will have to sign that to get any other spending. Then take it to the Presidential election and see who wins. We lose that one, and we are pretty much done as a country.
I just posted the following in a related thread concerning DC Obamacare follies.
Regarding the smoke-and-mirrors that were getting from DC concerning Obamacare, please consider the following. I dont know if this is possible in the 2014 election cycle, but as Ive mentioned in related threads, if patriots can get off of their couches on election day and elect 2/3 majority conservatives in both Houses of Congress then well have the following situtation.
Conservative supermajority control of Congress will give Congress the power, under the Constitutions Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. So Congress could have the power to repeal constitutionally indefensible Obamacare after 2014 elections without Obamas signature if patriots can get their acts together before that time.
Ditto.
+1.
Fighting this fight wont be easy, but its now or never. President Obamas strategy is simple: on January 1, the subsidies kick in. President Obama wants to get as many Americans addicted to the subsidies because he knows that in modern times, no major entitlement has ever been implemented and then unwound. Thats why the administration announced that it wont enforce eligibility requirementsessentially encouraging fraud and liar loansbecause that way the most people possible will get addicted to the sugar.
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While the ultimate goal is to repeal the law in its entirety, defunding is a crucial step so we can stop the law from being implemented before Americans get hooked on the subsidies.
Your argument: The Donkees are fixing to hang themselves with ObamaCare, so why delay the rope? Plus, the folks who will get the subsidies are mostly 'Rat voters anyway.
The fact is, ObamaCare has already done a lot of damage just by being in the offing. If we manage to get it postponed a year, it will still be in the offing and will continue to harm the economy and the finances of individual voters.
Moreover, a year from now, the 2014 elections will be front and center. And that's an ideal environment for there to be impending totalitarian doom without any benefits yet delivered.
Delaying 0bamaCare for a year IS suffering it passively. And worse.
Going to work berry berry hard to defeet RINO scum this go around.
(I never look at the posting category, but note that many attempt to police such things. I wuz being mostly sarcastic and parroting that which I've seen noted many times before.)
Since idiot Rove is the one pushing the delay, I immediately reject it.
I know, it didn’t require much thought on my part, that is how much I detest and distrust the hairless little toad.
Gotcha! Cool.
There you go..
As Ted Cruz said on the news shows today the Republicans are compromising and Dingy Harry is an absolutist. He hit the mark time and again by pointing out that Reid is forcing a shut down by refusing to compromise.
When the piubs are fighting the teaparty they way they should be fighting the rats we have a problem. They’re protecting thier investment in commiecare and giving the idiot rats a chance to get it done
a delay past the 2014 elections is a huge win for rats..
This needs to hit people BEFORE the 2014 elections. like in October if it’s gonna hit at all.
Can we repeal Medicaid, Social Security, Medicare, Welfare? No? Obamacare would be the same. ANY implementation and it’s over.
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