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Questions About Breaking Bad
me | Sept. 2, 2013 | RetSignman

Posted on 09/02/2013 10:50:34 AM PDT by RetSignman

I have a couple of questions about Breaking Bad.


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KEYWORDS: breakingbad; ricin
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To: libertarian27

Thanks for the link, I think that explains things as good as it can be explained.

Obviously, I’m going to have to pay more attention to dialogue and action which are not completely obvious.


21 posted on 09/02/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: HChampagne

The female of the human species is the more lethal when things get existential.


22 posted on 09/02/2013 11:35:16 AM PDT by libstripper (])
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To: HChampagne

She has a real dark side and is a better criminal than Walt.


I agree, kinda’ a stunner huh. I have always been mystified why Walt has such an unexplained bond with Jesse, after all, he is the one person who can bring down the whole house of cards.


23 posted on 09/02/2013 11:35:29 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: jeffc

Hey, Uncle Leo also went bad, in “The Outlaw Josey Wales”.


24 posted on 09/02/2013 11:36:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Yep, but Jesse is PO’d because he finally figured out that Walt used him and poisoned Brock, the little boy.


25 posted on 09/02/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: jeffc

I’m still trying to figure out how Jerry’s dentist could go so wrong.


Only the shadow knows or cares.


26 posted on 09/02/2013 11:39:51 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: HChampagne

Last night on Talking Bad, Skylar said that Gilligan (writer/producer) made it very clear that he did not want Skylar to be a victim. He wants her to be “Mrs. Heisenberg”.


27 posted on 09/02/2013 11:40:41 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: az wildkitten; raybbr

Walt and Jessie made the ricin in season 1 and spiked some meth with it to kill Tuco. The plan didn’t work as it made the meth smell bad and when Jessie tried to explain why (chili powder) Tuco wouldn’t snort the meth since he hated chili powder.


28 posted on 09/02/2013 12:01:04 PM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: hulagirl

Walt didn’t poison the kid with ricin.

He used oleander. His intention wasn’t necessarily murder. The conclusion of season finale closed on an oleander plant in Walt’s possession.


29 posted on 09/02/2013 12:01:43 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: az wildkitten; NY Cajun
Also, who is the young kid who died from poisoning and who killed him and why?

Brock did not die and was not poisoned with ricin but with "Lily of the Valley."

30 posted on 09/02/2013 12:02:57 PM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: All

Covering my ears; we’re only up to the 3rd season!


31 posted on 09/02/2013 12:04:44 PM PDT by Lacey
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To: RetSignman

you missed too much to answer all that

watch and you’ll see

everything is interconnected


32 posted on 09/02/2013 12:05:40 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Skepolitic

Good point, but it was Lily of the Valley, not Oleander. The Ricin cigarette was meant for Gus, but Jesse thought it poisoned the kid? Also, the kid didn’t die, but I can’t remember what happened to the girl and the child, I think Jesse gave them money to disappear?


33 posted on 09/02/2013 12:09:55 PM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I must be so stupid because I think that Walt isn’t pure evil! Last night, he was going to explain to Jesse why he had to poison Brock, right? That guy Jesse thought was a killer was just a daddy dude at the mall right? Help me out here!


34 posted on 09/02/2013 12:21:15 PM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: hulagirl

“I must be so stupid because I think that Walt isn’t pure evil!”

Ah, and that’s the hook. That’s what I liked about The Shield, The Wire, and Rogue. You get to know the characters and then the lines become blurred about what is right and what is wrong. Do the ends justify the means? The way these producers bring out the moral dilemmas is brilliant.


35 posted on 09/02/2013 12:25:25 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: RetSignman
Ricin is an extremely toxic substance that can be extracted from castor beans. For an attempt on the life of Gus Fring, Walt prepared a capsule of ricin and gave it to Jesse to hide in his cigarette pack for use on Fring. When an opportunity presented itself though, Jesse hesitated.

Not long after, Brock, the young son of the woman Jesse was living with, fell mysteriously ill. Jesse abandoned a meth cook in progress, putting him in peril of being killed by Fring.

Jesse soon realized that the capsule of ricin Walt gave him was missing from his cigarette pack and thought Brock might have accidentally consumed it, thus putting the boy's life in jeopardy.

Walt though convinced Jesse that Fring was responsible for Brock's illness as a warning to Jesse. This helped Walt convince Jesse that Fring had to be killed, which Walter did using a bomb. Walt also feared that Jesse might consolidate his relationship with Fring, making Walt disposable as a meth cook.

In the most recent episode, Jesse realized that he did not misplace the ricin capsule but that Walt had Saul's bodyguard, Huell, lift his pack of cigarettes in order to take the ricin capsule. Jesse thus realizes that he was played by Saul and Walt in order to help pit him and Fring against each other.

The true dimensions of Walt's cleverness and wickedness is also now better recognized by the viewers. We realize that Walt did in fact poison Brock, not with ricin, but with an extract from Lily of the Valley, a popular but highly toxic ornamental plant that was identified by Brock's doctors as the cause of his poisoning.

Walt no doubt carefully calibrated the dose and selected that toxin because children are known to sometimes eat the red berries of Lily of the Field, thus providing a ready explanation for Brock's poisoning.

Moreover, in order to cover his tracks, Walter planted the missing capsule of ricin in Jesse's Roomba vacuum cleaner, then pretended to discover and dispose of it in Jesse's presence. In truth, Walt kept the capsule of ricin against a need to use it some day. In retrieving the capsule, Walt obviously intends to poison someone.

Like Jesse, the Breaking Bad audience is now forced to reevaluate his prior conduct and recognize that he is far more clever and sinister than he seemed.

36 posted on 09/02/2013 12:26:56 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: jeffc

You are clearly an anti-dentite.


37 posted on 09/02/2013 12:37:55 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then. - PK Dick)
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To: HChampagne

he genuinely’does care abut jesse. it’s showing a person who is capable of awful things is capable of love and care for others. loyalty to someone. jesse did save him, and walt also saved jesse before. it’ real all the stuff they went thru. while walt needs him gone, trying to get out of town, it would have also at the same time been good for jesse to get out of town and start fresh somewhere else.


38 posted on 09/02/2013 12:53:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: InterceptPoint

no,they told him it wasn’t ricin.

there’s no cure for ricin poisoning. kid would have died.


39 posted on 09/02/2013 12:54:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RetSignman

the popularity of series based on drug dealers and serial killers does not bode well for our civilization. When people go see a movie like “Saw” and laugh, they show their true natures.


40 posted on 09/02/2013 1:01:04 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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