Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]
Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
What about Sarah Palin Jim? She is the only Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 true natural born Citizen that was born with ‘sole allegiance’ to the United States that is truly a conservative blessing for this country. She is what America needs and the election of her would be adhering to the founders original intent of not putting a person born with split allegiances in the oval office. That is being a true Constitutionalist.
“Under the Common Law of England anyone born in the country with few exceptions was considered natural born.”
And the British call sausages “bangers”.
What’s your point?
The simplest way to look at it is the following: if you are a citizen without the benefit of any Act of Congress or any Amendment to the Constitution, then you are "natural-born," if you become a citizen because of any act of man, then you are a citizen, but not "natural-born."
Ted Cruz is a citizen because of legislation that grants citizenship to the children who are born out of the country but have at least one citizen parent. This legislation used include requirements as the the age of the citizen parent and the number of years they had lived in the U.S. - not sure that it does anymore.
Congress made one attempt, shortly after our nation's founding (I believe in the 1st Congress), to grant "natural-born" status to those born out of the country to 2 citizen parents. They obviously realized later that they were defining something that could not be defined by human intervention, as they removed that provision from the new Naturalization Act in the subsequent Congress.
The determination of "natural-born" lies beyond the reach of mere mortals!
We are not under English Common Law.
We are not in England, we are not commoners. we are sovereigns. Our constitution has no provision for adoption of the laws of another nation; all of our laws must be passed by our legislative bodies.
Thankfully, there are some birthers who will not do that. I have seen a number of them on the forum who are coming to grips with the reality of what their position will mean. The concept that Hillary or Christie have the kind of citizenship allowing them to be President and not Ted Cruz is simply inconceivable.
Here is a summary of the arguments:
1. There is no law, no precedent, case, no definition of this issue as put forth by the birthers anywhere in any court case or law. None. Zilch, zero, nada.
2. Cruz was given a US birth certificate immediately, he was not naturalized, his parents did not have to go through any unusual manner to get his citizenship, it was automatic.
3. The original intent of the issue was not to have a President with divided loyalties. Cruz has no divided loyalties toward the US founding, most of his opponents do.
4. There is a big divide in thought on the matter, some good arguments from both sides in the conservative arena, but there is no clear winner, because there is no clear court precedent. Why take someone out as good as Cruz over a difference of opinion on this niggling point?
5. Even if the birthers were right (debatable), for us to take out one of ours on a point that they ignored for two elections would be political suicide and make us the stupidest part of the stupid party.
I think there are other main points to argue, but these are what I have read. Xzins and others, kindly add other points than what I have made here. I would like to make a good, comprehensive list of the arguments that have been put forth.
I said if Cruz is the strongest conservative running. But neither Cruz or Palin have declared. We’ll have to wait and see. And as far as I’m concerned, I’ll go with Levin and others who say Cruz is a natural born citizen.
If the MSM chooses to create an anti-Cruz birther movement that isn't just limited to left wing Cruz haters, the MSM is going to have a real uphill battle. Cruz really is eligible.
LOL! I defend the constitution. Don’t like it, piss up a rope. Your call.
Has Levin actually stated clearly and unequivocally that Cruz is a natural born citizen?
Yes, blogs are the definitive authority on pretty much everything.
Read what he said at the top of this thread.
I will abide your rules regarding nastiness to other Freepers.
I am under no illusion that you need follow your own rules.
A blog is a cyber-document.
Some blogs are useful, and have useful information, other blogs are useless, and have useless information.
Discernment is the key......
I don't know about that, but it might provide incentive for those
who think birthers are ate-up to heap upon you steaming piles of invective.
No, I've not had a seeing. Just 'splainin'.
The ONLY one? You know the whole population of the country?
Lots of folks right here on FR say the same dang things she does.
Why do you assume we are all foreigners?
To paraphrase your own words:
There is no court decision anywhere since George Washington was President, no precedent anywhere that makes these after-birther opinions law.
No where. Just gobbledy gook on the internet and from after-birther mouths. Levin is right, he hasn’t studied the subject, but can’t refrain from being nasty.
Cruz was given the birth certificate and was automatically naturalized by Congress’ authority under Article 1, Section 8.. he is a US citizen from birth. He ISN’T a natural born citizen until some idiot after-birther wins a court case for him.
With the current injustices on the supreme court, you’ll probably have good luck with that - if they ever stop evading the issue.
Levin declared him one by doing it in the flawed current political correct way stating:
Ted Cruz was born to an American mother making him a citizen, therefore he is a natural born Citizen.
Levin is wrong by conflating Citizen and natural born Citizen.
I did read what Levin said and he never once clearly and unequivocally stated that Ted Cruz was a “natural born citizen”.
Dude, I’m on your side. I love the guy (Cruz); I think he’s hell on wheels, a young Reagan on steroids.
Read every post I’ve made here in over 9 years and then tell me I’m a plant. You know I’m not. I’m trying to be consistent with what I believe the intent was from our Founders. That’s it.
I’m not going to clam up because it makes people uncomfortable.
Well, look. You accuse me of not defending the constitution and then you double damn dare me to ban your account. Do you expect me to say thank you sir may I have some more in response to your belligerent nastiness? Keep up the good work. Cruz has not even declared yet and already you’re looking to self-immolate.
Reason and logic? LOL!
Been there, done that. Bought the T-Shirt.
See post 105.
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