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Was There A Birth Certificate? - Donald Trump Battles Jon Karl Over Obama's, Ted Cruz's Citizenship
Youtube Mediaite ^ | August 11, 2013

Posted on 08/11/2013 2:54:35 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

Potential 2016 presidential contender Donald Trump spoke to ABC's Jonathan Karl Sunday morning and reignited the birther issue that he helped spark back in 2011, questioning the legitimacy of Barack Obama's birth certificate and wondering whether Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, was eligible to president. "Was there a birth certificate?" Trump asked. "You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows. And you don't know, either, Jonathan. You're a smart guy, you don't know, either." "I'm pretty convinced he was born in the United States," Karl said. "Ah! Pretty convinced," Trump said, and rolled over Karl's objections that he was 100% sure Obama was an American citizen. "Pretty sure is not acceptable." Trump made Obama's birth certificate a major issue in his aborted 2012 run for the GOP nomination, ultimately leading to Obama releasing his longform birth certificate. Karl asked Trump if the Canadian-born Cruz was eligible for the office. (Cruz's mother is an American citizen.) "If he was born in Canada, then perhaps not," Trump said. "That will be ironed out. I don't know the circumstances. If he says he was born in Canada, that's his thing."

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ABC news just can't let go of the birth certificate issue. And no, Ted Cruz is not a natural born Citizen eligible for Article 2 Section 1. He is just a statutory Citizen born in a foreign sovereignty to a foreign national.
1 posted on 08/11/2013 2:54:35 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

His mother was not a foreign national, she was an American citizen.


2 posted on 08/11/2013 2:57:06 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Chester A. Arthur was in the same boat and took over after Garfield was assassinated*. So, can Cruz be a vice presidential candidate?


3 posted on 08/11/2013 2:57:31 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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and isn’t it also to do with the age of the mother when she had the child?.....I’m assuming she was over 17 ....


4 posted on 08/11/2013 2:59:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: jocon307

She is the only thing that makes him a Citizen by statute, but not a natural born Citizen to meet the requirement of Article 2 Section 1.


5 posted on 08/11/2013 2:59:04 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Revolting cat!
"I'm pretty convinced he was born in the United States," Karl said. "Ah! Pretty convinced," Trump said

"Vas you dere, Sharlie?"


6 posted on 08/11/2013 2:59:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: gorush

“Chester A. Arthur was in the same boat and took over after Garfield was assassinated*. So, can Cruz be a vice presidential candidate?”

The answer is no. Chester Arthur slipped through the cracks like Obama did. Arthur was never eligible.


7 posted on 08/11/2013 3:00:27 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“What difference could it (Cruz’s birth status) make at this point in time anyway?”


8 posted on 08/11/2013 3:00:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

““What difference could it (Cruz’s birth status) make at this point in time anyway?”

What do you mean?


9 posted on 08/11/2013 3:04:59 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

But what about “Stare Decisis”?
(I think that’s Latin for “If you fool me once, precedent will invalidate the Constitution forever”)


10 posted on 08/11/2013 3:05:45 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: cherry

and isn’t it also to do with the age of the mother when she had the child?.....I’m assuming she was over 17 ....


That issue only relates to being able to confir citizenship, not natural born citizenship.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 3:06:13 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: a fool in paradise

X-ZACTLY!!!! We decided five years ago that Constitutional requirements DON’T MATTER. Move on.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 3:07:48 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Has Cruz been naturalized?

If he doesn’t need to be naturalized, doesn’t that mean he’s a Natural Born Citizen?


13 posted on 08/11/2013 3:09:41 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: gorush

If he is not eligible to be president he is disqualified from VP.


14 posted on 08/11/2013 3:10:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: gorush

Chester Arthur was also an American General in the Civil War, whether that had any influence or not, I can’t say. If Obama was a U.S.General in Viet Nam or the Gulf War, I don’t think I would make an issue of his place of birth. Had Cruz fought in the Gulf, I would lean towards him too.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 3:10:55 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

It’s my understanding that when something has been allowed to stand by the courts, it can become the law of the land. I cannot remember the legal term for this, unfortunately.

What it may mean is that, because Obama was allowed to serve as President without being challenged in the Supreme Court, the Court may have accepted by default that one does not have to be a natural born citizen to be President.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 3:11:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Vendome

Chester’s daughter saw him burning copious amounts of paper work in the burn barrel out back not long before he died. In the liberal mind, though, the fact that if Arthur got away with it, so should Soetero.


17 posted on 08/11/2013 3:13:24 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Yeah but his father was a foreign national, wasn’t a citizen when Obama was hatched so right there that makes BHO ineligible. Whether BHO was born in Hawaii or Kenya or Mars doesn’t matter because right off the bat he is ineligible because he was not a natural born citizen.

http://obamanotqualified.com/obama_is_not_a_natural_born_citizen.htm


18 posted on 08/11/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Jonty30

the word is common law via judicial decisions


19 posted on 08/11/2013 3:17:18 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Potential 2016 presidential contender Donald Trump

No, no, no, please say this is a bad dream.

"Was there a birth certificate?" Trump asked.

You should know the answer, combover boy. Remember that "crack team of investigators" you hired to look into this?? Or did they ever look into anything other than their own cracks??

20 posted on 08/11/2013 3:19:29 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tío es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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