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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: House Atreides
I hope this idiot prosecutor just opened the door to Trayvon’s physical fitness, fighting ability. Sidebar now.

He brought up Middle School football. I hope he opened to door to St. Trayvons other Middle School Activities...

901 posted on 07/10/2013 9:19:46 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: P-Marlowe
Once again you have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt why no one should pay any attention to you on these threads.

Who? Geraldo? That's news?

902 posted on 07/10/2013 9:19:48 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: Donnafrflorida

looks to me like angela is sitting on dads lap
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With plans to talk about the first thing that comes up.......but nothing is coming up.


903 posted on 07/10/2013 9:20:03 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: gov_bean_ counter

HAR!


904 posted on 07/10/2013 9:20:12 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: don-o
Is this a beauty tips thread?

No, it's about the judge and what her appearance psychologically means as to her job performance.

905 posted on 07/10/2013 9:20:20 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: onyx

Cool. Maybe I can get a chance to catch up. It appears last night was a complete and total waste of time?


906 posted on 07/10/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Solson

Maybe someone will post the picture of Bernie because I missed it..I wasnt looking at video at that point

will have to review

MOM was very effective with all that banging and thrashing around


907 posted on 07/10/2013 9:21:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sport

yep, but we cant do beauty/housekeeping tips. We need a femalemthread for this trial in addition to this one, formthe tips!


908 posted on 07/10/2013 9:21:23 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: BykrBayb

Blind Justice looks like she wants to use that sword.


I guess maybe I was a little too subtle with what she is holding...no balanced scales.


909 posted on 07/10/2013 9:21:38 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: Toespi
Well he better jump on the “could football training” have given an attacker an advantage?

And the narrative that the short, pudgy, middle-aged Hispanic guy ran down the 17 year-old football player on foot and executed him.

910 posted on 07/10/2013 9:21:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DrewsMum

>> Is manslaughter on the table or can it be put in the table?

IANAL and all that, but the best description I have seen goes something like this:

** By FL law manslaughter is an automatically available lesser charge to murder 2. I have seen “official” information so I believe this.
** A finding of self defense means not guilty on either murder 2 *or* manslaughter. Self defense essentially means justifiable homicide, so it’s neither murder nor manslaughter.
** It would be possible for the jury to find that Zimmerman did not act with a depraved mind, so he’s not guilty of Murder 2. However, they may also find that his claim of self defense was “imperfect”. Under those conditions they could convict him of manslaughter.

Again I am not a lawyer (but I’m learning how to play one on FR threads).


911 posted on 07/10/2013 9:22:40 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: tacticalogic

I posted a graphic today that points that out with pictures of St Skittles


912 posted on 07/10/2013 9:22:50 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

From WFTV blog:

12:02

Comment From Ann-The Villages
Quote of the whole trial by MOM—”May I use your doll?”


913 posted on 07/10/2013 9:23:23 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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I apologize, but

Those words always make me cringe
914 posted on 07/10/2013 9:23:35 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: Cyber Liberty
It appears last night was a complete and total waste of time?

Well, yeah, given the judge walked out at 10:00 PM and ruled that the text messages from TM's cell phone are excluded.

915 posted on 07/10/2013 9:23:46 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

That was funny. I don’t care who you are...


916 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:08 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

OMGosh! Thank you for the laugh! Saved that one to share!


917 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:11 AM PDT by Conservative145
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To: RetSignman

No, you weren’t too subtle. I think others commented on that obvious detail. I just wanted to add that little tidbit about the sword.


918 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:13 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: don-o

cutting grass is good but use sumscreen, hat and moisturize after, and I presume yourmhair conditioner has spf sumscreen init? Dont want split ends and sun vleached dry hair!


919 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:33 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: P-Marlowe

So I apologize for assuming you had made that comment. But since you didn’t comment on it, should I conclude that you agree with it?


Now who’s being stupid. Or are you just being obtuse?


920 posted on 07/10/2013 9:24:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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