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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: onyx

Being from the high falutin side of the family, I’m claiming lineage from the Ritz Cracker :)


61 posted on 07/10/2013 5:36:45 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (If stupid ever reaches $150 a barrel then I want the drilling rights to Maxine Water's head.)
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bkmk


62 posted on 07/10/2013 5:36:57 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SeaDragon

Ping


63 posted on 07/10/2013 5:37:34 AM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: tioga

What did the Prosecution do with the phone records? Did they withold them from the Defense?


64 posted on 07/10/2013 5:37:35 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: don-o

Yesterday, I posted

“Self defense. Duh.”

The “duh” was uncalled for and unkind on my part. I apologize and will attempt to refrain from such in the future.


Don’t be silly, I thought it was just fun between friends. I didn’t take the “duh” seriously. I wouldn’t have even if the post was to me directly.


65 posted on 07/10/2013 5:37:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
Mari Fagel ‏@MariFagel 29 May A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from #TrayvonMartin's cell on administrative leave: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/29/3422519/lawyer-zimmerman-prosecutor-withheld.html#.UaZe4jc4CYI.twitter …
66 posted on 07/10/2013 5:38:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

looks like you could get the serial number of that gun. Also, if that’s his hand....they expected to find GZ’s DNA under the nails? How stupid are they?


67 posted on 07/10/2013 5:38:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

bookmark


68 posted on 07/10/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: RummyChick
La raza needs to get right on this

69 posted on 07/10/2013 5:39:25 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RetSignman
Could be another one though, West is trying to get his client out of jail after he was arrested for violating his curfew.

No. This was handled around 9:30 when West brought it up. Judge extender Z curfew

70 posted on 07/10/2013 5:39:44 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: mountaineer1997

Just make a simple post before you walk away thats what I do.


71 posted on 07/10/2013 5:40:07 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: don-o

>> I won’t let my contempt for the prime mover of this fiasco (hint - Kenyan Muslim) spill over on the poor schlubs who drew this crap detail.

Your devil’s advocacy actually makes a *little* sense applied to the prosecutors (BDLR and crew). We love to hate ‘em, but the truth is, they showed up for work one day and were handed a crap sandwich as a work assignment. I could muster some grudging sympathy for their situation if only it didn’t seem that they actually RELISH the railroad job they’re so incompetently failing to pull off.

So, on the DA’s, your point is taken. Except Corey. She is evil.

But...

NOT where the judge is concerned! NEVER — NEVER — NEVER in these free United States is it excusable or even UNDERSTANDABLE for a judge to be ANYTHING WHATSOEVER but scrupulously impartial.

I don’t care what the politics are.
I dont’ care how she came by the assignment.
I frankly don’t care if a carload of NO_LIMIT_N*****s are holding guns to her grandkids’ heads, awaiting the verdict.

A JUDGE MUST BE IMPARTIAL. MUST be! If she can’t, for WHATEVER reason — abdicate the bench.

But NO ZIP ZILCH NADA reason, excuse, or circumstance justifies the blatant bias that is evident with this one.

FRegards


72 posted on 07/10/2013 5:40:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks! I’ll be doing my online FEMA ISC courses so I’ll be in and out!


73 posted on 07/10/2013 5:41:21 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: McGruff

How dare you bring facts into my court.


They say good comedy has to have some truth in it. Very funny post.


74 posted on 07/10/2013 5:41:45 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: VRWCarea51

Ben Crump presented to the state phone records that showed that Tracey Martin was the holder of the account but the phone expert last night testified that the owner of Trayvon’s account was Sybrina —


75 posted on 07/10/2013 5:43:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Present! I have noticed that the days Deb has her hair pulled back with a headband she is more tense. Lets hope today, she has loose locks.


76 posted on 07/10/2013 5:44:14 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: VRWCarea51

If I heard right, they broke down the binary files and didn’t share that, just gave the binary file to the defense and gave it to them LATE...days before the trial. Defense hired an expert to break into it and get the data. That man was on the stand last night. JudgeBitch wants to keep this out. Since the defense got it deliberately late they will file to sanction the prosecution and want the evidence in. West argued that it is reversible error if the judge does not allow it. There is no time to bring in all Trayvon’s little text buddies to authenticate it. She never made a decision last night leaving the defense clueless as to what witnesses to call today. Huge scene last night in open court when judgeBitch finally just stalked out.


77 posted on 07/10/2013 5:44:43 AM PDT by tioga
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To: freeangel

‘Guess she must be an atheist ‘cause she sure doesn’t believe in hell”

Most dykes are.


78 posted on 07/10/2013 5:45:14 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Video stream just activated. No court stuff yet. Just news reports.


79 posted on 07/10/2013 5:45:26 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: don-o
I sympathize with the cubicle bound having to scroll through multiple posts about amyl nitrate, Snapple and Jane Fonda to keep current.

I agree with you. Having just recently re-entered the civilian workforce, cube-farm-dwelling is getting ugly for FReeping...

80 posted on 07/10/2013 5:46:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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