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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: rolling_stone

btw, I have already posted an article from more than a month ago showing info about fighting
was known world wide . some articles go into more details

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330068/George-Zimmerman-Marijuana-guns-fighting-New-photos-texts-Trayvon-Martins-cell-phone-paint-troubling-picture-slain-teen.html


341 posted on 07/10/2013 6:58:26 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: don-o

Last witness of the day. He wanted to get to some points with the judge like the cell phone


342 posted on 07/10/2013 6:58:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Witness testifies to the material that he was given to evaluate - eyewitness statements, depo transcripts, police investigation file, autopsy,


343 posted on 07/10/2013 6:59:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: rolling_stone

But it has....DD talked about it.


344 posted on 07/10/2013 6:59:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: hoosiermama

You are absolutely correct about the exact wording. And, GZ complied with that request, since the remainder of the transcript shows no indication of it, and in fact shows that he was afraid to give his house number for fear that TM, whom Zim had lost track of, would overhear his address.


345 posted on 07/10/2013 6:59:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: TigerClaws
a bit surprised he didn’t want to testify to make his own case.

If you hire an attorney, listen to them! MOM has this in the bag.

346 posted on 07/10/2013 7:00:09 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: AppyPappy

The events of last night might change the defenses mind. I still have to believe they might have another route to get TM past actions in.


347 posted on 07/10/2013 7:00:20 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Hoodat
There is so much out there to show a propensity to violence


348 posted on 07/10/2013 7:00:31 AM PDT by ~Pandora
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To: Uncle Chip
West: There was a double level of security.

Judge: And I know any seven year old can learn the passwords and get into that because they do it all the time.

West: The FDLE had his phone for a year and they couldn’t do it.

[It’s time to fire the staff at FDLE and hire some 7 year olds]

 

On a related note, It would be good to know what the programs were that supposedly 'encrypted' this text, so we'll know what to avoid. Unless the data was 'cracked' because of stupid passwords.

349 posted on 07/10/2013 7:00:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Keeping an eye on someone has meaning. It says that a neighborhood watcher should track whereabouts. Tracking sometimes involves movement.


350 posted on 07/10/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: ~Pandora

was MaxDee Diamond Eugene???


351 posted on 07/10/2013 7:02:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Marcella

Oh yes. Many days. In fact, I’ll be leaving today about 12:30 PM.


352 posted on 07/10/2013 7:02:07 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: zeugma

Who set up this secret phone stuff? Apps within apps, double passwords?

Was it Travon?


353 posted on 07/10/2013 7:02:49 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: AppyPappy
Last witness of the day.

BS on wftv and others did not take it that way. They were opining case going to the jury on Friday after the defense rested today. But, during the blowup at 2200 last eve, MOM DID say that he was hindered in contacting his witnesses due to the lateness. Confusing.

354 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:10 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: zeugma

One of the stupidest comments from the Judge was that any 7 year old could pick up the phone and make texts...after she knew that State couldnt get into and had to have someone wrote code to break into it.


355 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:22 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

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Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV

Root says he was the go-to consultant for Martin County State Attorney in use of force cases. #Zimmermanon9

9:44

Bill Sheaffer:
Richard Connor won’t be able to testify regarding text messages. If you missed it last night, this was one of the texts he was going to testify to— when you read this, you can see why defense wanted his testimony in:

21:29:02 talks about having been involved in orchestrated fight... 3 rounds.... talks about how he won second and third and won the fight... also able to hit in the nose and make them bleed, not satisfied with amount of blood... not done yet with this guy... cautioned he should quit doing this


356 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:28 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Toespi
The events of last night might change the defenses mind. I still have to believe they might have another route to get TM past actions in.

I think you're right.

357 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:46 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: hoosiermama
A bazillion people have ADHD thanks to our perverse pharmaceutical system and government funding. The question?? Is it real??

Now a bazillion people have autism, too.

358 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cajungirl

Some think it was Diamond Eugene


359 posted on 07/10/2013 7:03:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: zeugma
" what the programs were that supposedly 'encrypted' this text,"

It was a third party app specifically for testing that requires it's own (a second) password. Clearly TM wanted to hide certain communications.

360 posted on 07/10/2013 7:04:28 AM PDT by moehoward
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