Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.
The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh
Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!
How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.
You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.
No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).
Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.
It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.
That, and a DOJ ball cap will just confuse the hell out of them.
“MOM said they protected the memory of Trayvon... WHY should he care about that..”
Perhaps to somewhat quell the coming racial storm?
“They just think I’m a crazy old lady I guess.”
I had to quickly check to see who posted this. It could have been me. Exactly the same with me . Kids always calling me “crazy lady” and telling me to get off FR because no one here knows what they are talking about. Unfortunately for my kids I am retired and spend at least 6hrs a day here. I figure I am more informed about what is going on in this world than they are.
P.S. My daughter thinks Zimmerman is guilty because he was a power hungry cop wannabe.
I am permitted to provoke reaction under FR Rule BR-549
I was thinking - imagine MOM defending someone we hated. Criminal lawyers do defend scumbags sometimes.
>> GZ worried for his personal safety going forward
For Mrs. Z too, no doubt. He’s a genuinely good guy. You can tell by looking at him. And reading about him. And “meeting” the people close to him. Especially his parents.
When his mom and dad and uncle walked to the witness stand, and the camera caught their faces, and his — I cried. Especially when he stood up to face his father.
NOTHING else in this silly surreal trial has touched my heart like those moments.
The jury was not there either time. West was objecting because “the question” was being asked before they were finished with their presentation. She was pushing. Oh yeah, this is schedule oriented.
Sooo, what did you look like with your sweat pants down around you ankles? SEND PICTURE.
<<< and now they aren’t calling Mr Lee either <<<
The ex Sanford Chief of Police? (One of the few heroes of this whole mess.)
It’s not false. It’s a summary of the meaning of 2 lines by the dispatcher.
1) are you following? (Yes)
2) we don’t need you to do that (Zimmerman complies)
See the transcript at # 241
As a summary it’s a fair one. There were no quotation marks around it.
The point is that Zimmerman complied and that he was doing what he thought the dispatcher had asked. It makes Zim look good that he listened.
I could buy a DOJ ball cap if I hadn’t had to pay so much income tax.
<< ... she could very well be a Chicago dirty plant. The powers that be put way too much into this to leave it to 6 little women. >>
I hate to keep thinking this, but think how easy it would be for obama’s people to pick jurors in a high-profile case. Just have someone call up your NSA contact for a little stealth info on the potential jurors, then whisper those names into the ear of the contact person in Florida. A list of jurors to AVOID at all cost, a list of jurors to RETAIN at all costs, and everything in between.
Let that sink in a minute. For ANY high-value trial in the future: Any potential juror with a meta-data history that indicated conservative beliefs would be low priority for approval, and may never even be considered by the prosecution attorneys. They could simply check the potential juror’s Facebook posts, any NRA memberships from years ago, a pattern of having conservative friends, etc. It wouldn’t take 30 seconds to check their database.
If i was evil and had access to Prism, I’d be downright dangerous! I can think of way too many ways to use it.
i saw it too. dana poo poo’d the DOJ organizing for trayvon. she did not call them protests. beckel was the one going... WHAT?? the DOJ organizing protests? he thought this info came from breitbart.
ya know the guy that was m.r.d.r.d. i mean had a heart attack.
I am the same - retired and keep FR opened on my computer and my computer on my lap or on a low stool when I have to get up. I leave my house by using my computer and go all over the world.
Pleez...everyone has a hoodie...It was called a sweatshirt....and it had a hood, too. Just a stupid nickname. I don’t think they call them hoodies on the tag...
Excellent point!
That would be like Clinton inviting the special prosecutor ken starr to a Paula Jones party. Lol
I’m positive during testimony about the GUN, I’m sure he mention and knew too much about a Sig Sauer. As he was question the Police Firearm Expert he held is Right Hand in an upright fashion, pointing skyward, and made a motion of racking a pistol with across over with his left.
He seem to know too much and I said so to a friend who was watching with me.
More so than a liberal?
hell. if i was on jury and we had a verdict in three hours, id bring my crocheting. if not guilty the T supporters would take trial as a joke.
>> I was thinking - imagine MOM defending someone we hated.
I know exactly what you’re saying. I’ve been puzzling over that too.
Through some liberal friends in faraway Kaliforniastan, we met a guy who happens to be a trial lawyer (primarily criminal defense). We’ve interacted socially, I’ve been running with him, that sort of thing.
Although we have NEVER discussed politics, I am sure he is capital-L liberal. But he’s intelligent, personable, and (sue me for saying it) kind of “caring”. Like we Christians ought to be, although I’m fairly sure he’s not one of us. Iow A genuine “good guy”.
I’m not often afflicted with cognitive dissonance, being the confident arrogant rightwing a-hole that I am. But that dude provokes a bit of it. Can’t figure out why, exactly.
O’Mara and West are the same sort.
Best I can figure, while I don’t like fire ants, buzzards, or dung beetles, they still have a role in the Master’s Plan...
“Hint on the sweatpants: test them while loaded down with stuff in the pockets,”
Yeah. Maybe you’ll need suspenders!
I would hope he has a week of fishing scheduled after this case.
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