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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: snarkytart

yup.....It’s a set up....


1,261 posted on 07/10/2013 11:04:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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are we all witnesses to the death throes of our constitution?


1,262 posted on 07/10/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Uncle Chip

It is the defendant’s right not to testify, Your Dishonor, now how about you shut the **** up.


1,263 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:11 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MrEdd
The lack of a legal training and practice requirement for supreme court justices in one of the checks and balances built into the constitution. The founders imagined there could come a day that the legal profession as a whole could become corrupt and try to seize powers from the people for the exclusive use of its members. How silly all those racist dead white guys were.

Back then, were there even law schools? Abraham Lincoln did not go to law school. He studied some law books and then passed his bar exam.

Following your reasoning, any group that controlled who could pass the bar, could control who could become a judge, if being a lawyer was a prerequisite for being a judge.

1,264 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: txmissy

collusion


1,265 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: viaveritasvita

“I wanted to give some of these players the benefit of the doubt...like someone said earlier they have been handed a crap sandwich...but it’s possible that this judge especially has a seared conscience.”

You must first have to have a soul in order to have a conscience. So no, THIS judges has no con-science, seared or otherwise.


1,266 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:29 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: viaveritasvita

Singular vs plural?


1,267 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:39 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: RummyChick

I keep trying to post about the DOJ involvement on WFTV blog. So far, no luck. I am soooo shocked!


1,268 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:39 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Toespi
They have not concluded their case, the dynamics of the testimony could change in a heartbeat, she has no right to nail the defendant down before defenses has rested. Period

Well stated. Agree.

1,269 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: NautiNurse

Bill S was talking about some case that has created a situation whereby the Judge needs to talk directly to defendant without pressuring from attorney because if not could lead to a problem

BUT she doesnt need to do that yet


1,270 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

“Bill Schaeffer WTF says that if GZ takes the stand he will be making the biggest mistake of his life — that he will be on the stand for 5 days.
He then suggests that the question was premature as there are 2 witnesses left to come.”

I think BS is understating the abuse this Judge was attempting by sugar coating it as “premature”.


1,271 posted on 07/10/2013 11:05:52 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: cuban leaf

lol


1,272 posted on 07/10/2013 11:07:28 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Andrew Branca, LOSD @LawSelfDefense

#zimmermantrial Hmmm, looks like State opened door into getting in some of these judgment questions to Root—did GZ acted reasonably. Oopsie


1,273 posted on 07/10/2013 11:07:48 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: machogirl
Angela Corey has some electronic device she has been using in Court. Her glasses were reflecting the light of the device.

Good observation. Corey is getting her orders from Holder's office.

1,274 posted on 07/10/2013 11:08:14 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: snarkytart

:What’s her issue? Why does she need to know so bad?”

Why? Because ‘Holder’s people’ need to know when to schedule their race riots and looting sessions. Timing, dontcha know. If GZ testifies, it will likely take days to complete and the anti-whitey Holder people are ‘chomping at the bit’ here. Plus, they need to know whether they need their hotel reservations extended for next week, also, or not.


1,275 posted on 07/10/2013 11:08:19 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: machogirl
brettbody brettbody 2m This is pure gold RT @GnarlesBarclay: @brettbody We are in danger, even though Zimmerman is Hispanic pic.twitter.com/6cLxigXJxA
1,276 posted on 07/10/2013 11:08:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: XenaLee

“Zimmerman will do whatever his extremely competent attorneys advise him to do. And they are anything BUT stupid.”

That’s what Zimmerman SHOULD do, but if he demands to testify, his attorneys have no choice but to put him on the stand. It’s not their choice.


1,277 posted on 07/10/2013 11:08:52 AM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: machogirl

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Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV

The judge forced #Zimmermanon9 to answer about testifying despite his lawyer’s objection. She has to ask him again anyway.


1,278 posted on 07/10/2013 11:09:06 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: All

Zimmerman called 411 , not 911 correct?


1,279 posted on 07/10/2013 11:10:13 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Conservative145

>> that *B* is going straight to hell for her behavior!

Well... the answer to that question is WAY above my pay grade...

...however I know from GOD’s Word that He hates injustice and unrighteousness.

And bearing false witness is one of the “big ten”.


1,280 posted on 07/10/2013 11:10:16 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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