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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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Regarding the discipline or removal of Judges in Florida...

How Judges Are Disciplined for Misconduct

The Judicial Qualifications Commission is an independent agency created by the Florida Constitution solely to investigate alleged misconduct by Florida state judges. It is not a part of the Florida Supreme Court or the state courts and operates under rules it establishes for itself. It has its own Website. The JQC has no authority over federal judges or judges in other states. Complaints against state judges must be filed in writing with the JQC, not with the Supreme Court or any other state court or judge. Neither the Supreme Court nor its Chief Justice have any authority to investigate alleged misconduct by state judges or to investigate the JQC. The JQC can be reached via the Contact Information on its website or at at:

Judicial Qualifications Commission 1110 Thomasville Road Tallahassee, FL 32303 Phone (850) 488-1581

How Judges Are Disciplined for Misconduct

1,001 posted on 07/10/2013 9:50:38 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: Hoodat

“True. Unlike OJ, Zimmerman is actually innocent of the charges.”

Yes.

Perhaps even more important, at least as to the Scheme Team, is that even IF the family gets a civil judgement against GZ after a criminal conviction (which now seems highly doubtful) there is no money to collect. The HOA ins. already paid up.

OJ had $$ somewhere. Like memorabilia—which got OJ into trouble in Las Vegas. Where he’s now in prison.


1,002 posted on 07/10/2013 9:50:45 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: RummyChick

In neighboring Georgia, a lawsuit has been filed because some courts have “accepted the race of a victim as evidence to establish the reasonableness of an individual’s fear in cases of justifiable homicide.” In other words, “I was scared for my life because he was black”, is a defense that can be considered reasonable by some courts.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/09/george-zimmerman-benefits-white-privilege.html


1,003 posted on 07/10/2013 9:51:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Nervous Tick

Oh okay. Thank you for the clarification, and a final question if I can impose on you: The prosecution would be required to ask the judge to instruct the jury to consider a lesser offense (manslaughter) because the original charge was Murder 2?


1,004 posted on 07/10/2013 9:51:15 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JoeProBono

That dummy looks taller than Z.


1,005 posted on 07/10/2013 9:51:37 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: AppyPappy

Good God! So it only takes one...And Zimmerman took 40 seconds of this crap from this low-life. If anything he showed restraint.


1,006 posted on 07/10/2013 9:52:43 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: NKP_Vet
He said the prosecution is trying to mow prove that Zimmerman could have gotten away

I noticed how hard they pushed that issue. Casting that theory would now make Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter 2 right?

1,007 posted on 07/10/2013 9:52:57 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: AppyPappy

An old man in Lynchburg Va was killed by someone playing that game


So was my wife’s BIL. I never got to meet him.


1,008 posted on 07/10/2013 9:53:48 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: reagandemocrat

we ASSUME paid up.

unless it is a contingent settlement. No conviction no payment.

Crump gets 33.33 percent of ZERO


1,009 posted on 07/10/2013 9:53:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

“never say never.

you have six mothers watching a “grieving mother”

of course now the father’s testimony is tainted.

I want to see crump’s testimony.”


I realize the jury make-up is a bit of a wild card, but I’m not all that certain the jury is overly sympathetic towards TM’s mum. We all know there’s no one more judgmental about women than other women, and that goes double when a mother is judging anothers child rearing skills.

Between Di Maio and Root the self defense case is about as sewn up as possible. Instructions aside, when the jury sees the video now they will have no reason to assume it’s not an accurate depiction of events.

At this point my hold out fear is that the jury might try to split the baby a little thinking (incorrectly) that a manslaughter sentence would be substantially less.


1,010 posted on 07/10/2013 9:54:13 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: JPX2011

MOM made a very effect comment during his Doll demonstration

showing TM raising up for his “FINAL BLOW”
thus negating Guy’s premise it would just because he was disengaging.


1,011 posted on 07/10/2013 9:54:50 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: longtermmemmory
last night, as reported this am, nancy grace actually shut the microphone off of a guest who dared not stick to the nancy grace is always right narrative. (see duke lacross)

Nancy Disgrace knows all too well how to play fast and loose with evidence, facts and the rule of law. Matter of fact as a young up and coming Prosecutor it was her inability to adhere to the rule of law, evidence and truth that forced her career change to that of a babbling TV idiotator.

1,012 posted on 07/10/2013 9:54:55 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: onyx

Give yourself an award. You’re #1,000!


1,013 posted on 07/10/2013 9:55:12 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: patriotspride
It may be their phone, but how can you prove they were in possession of the phone, and were the actual one reading it, or responding.....

I think it ultimately goes to what is shown by the preponderance of the evidence? Phone linked to GZ. Receivers testify to getting his texts. Another path might be linguistic analysis to show if the style is consistent disproving the contention that a five year old cracked the phone and texted about fighting etc.

1,014 posted on 07/10/2013 9:56:00 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Prov1322; MinuteGal

Thanks so much for this information regarding the discipline or removal of Judges in Florida.


1,015 posted on 07/10/2013 9:56:58 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: reagandemocrat
"OJ had $$ somewhere."

Remember where he moved to avoid paying? That's right. Florida.

GZ already lives there. He will set up a trust and TMs goon squad will NEVER see a dime.

1,016 posted on 07/10/2013 9:57:29 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

At this point my hold out fear is that the jury might try to split the baby a little thinking (incorrectly) that a manslaughter sentence would be substantially less.


Mine too.


1,017 posted on 07/10/2013 9:57:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: RummyChick

That he did do very well. I hope it resonated with the jury.


1,018 posted on 07/10/2013 9:57:44 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yeah... dang it and I had the award all ready.
I refuse to award it to myself. I wasn’t paying attention to the post number!
I’ll be sure to award #2000. I’m sure to be back by then...LOL.


1,019 posted on 07/10/2013 9:58:27 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Fawn

Could have gotten away...nope...no leverage available.


1,020 posted on 07/10/2013 9:58:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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