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Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens” ["Litmus Test"]
1800GunTrader.com ^ | January 22, 2013 10:35 pm | Not Listed (CITES Jim Garrow)

Posted on 01/24/2013 1:05:36 AM PST by TXnMA

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2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.

Garrow was nominated three years ago for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize and is the founder of The Pink Pagoda Girls, an organization dedicated to rescuing baby girls from “gendercide” in China. Garrow has been personally involved in “helping rescue more than 36,000 Chinese baby girls from death.” He is a public figure, not an anonymous voice on the Internet, which makes his claim all the more disturbing.

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.

It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

Concerns over US troops being given orders to fire on American citizens in the event of mass gun confiscation first arose in 1995 when hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey as part of an academic project by Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham which asked the Marines if they would, “Fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government.”

The survey was subsequently leaked because many of the Marines who took it were shocked by the tone of the question.

The US Military has clearly outlined innumerable civil emergency scenarios under which troops would be authorized to fire on U.S. citizens.

In July 2012, the process by which this could take place was made clear in a leaked US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” (PDF) dating from 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations.

The 2006 document outlines how military assets will be used to “help local and state authorities to restore and maintain law and order” in the event of mass riots, civil unrest or a declaration of martial law.

On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.”

Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement, Garrow’s claim is sure to stoke controversy given that Americans are seeing their gun rights eviscerated while the federal government itself stockpiles billions of bullets.

Last week, Gloversville Mayor Dayton King warned that any federal gun confiscation program could lead to a “Waco-style standoff” in rural areas of America.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; cicobama; guncontrol; jimgarrow; litmustest; martiallaw; military; militarylitmustest; obama; secondamendment; treason
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To: .44 Special

3) The enlisted ranks, almost to a man, would refuse to fire on enlisted ranks

Should read:

3) The enlisted ranks, almost to a man, would refuse to fire on U.S. civilians


41 posted on 01/24/2013 6:31:07 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buarch)
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To: TXnMA

I have a feeling some states have contingency plans to intern members of its National Guard and to replace those of questionable 2A loyalty with those willing to be protective of 2A supporters.


42 posted on 01/24/2013 6:37:34 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Sherman Logan

Obama saying we are right wing extremists/terrorists at war with this country is entirely an exercise in semantics. If the words appear on his teleprompter, he will say them.

Was Waco an “act of war”?


43 posted on 01/24/2013 6:39:26 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: huldah1776

We saw some of this when Benghazi resulted in Ham and a couple others to suddenly retire or get transferred.


44 posted on 01/24/2013 6:43:28 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: TXnMA

My bump! (To share from home base.)


45 posted on 01/24/2013 6:48:00 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: TXnMA

Well Stalin got rid of his generals sooooo.


46 posted on 01/24/2013 7:03:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Renegade
I seem to remember their votes weren’t counted because the government squelched the military vote.

You are correct. My current State House rep, Donna Frizzy-head Howard won by 12 votes and there were a lot of military votes that arrived a few days late. She had them disqualified.

47 posted on 01/24/2013 8:37:48 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

If I remember my history, it started with a vision by the Piute Wavoka, in Nevada that swept many tribes at that time. By doing the Ghost Dance that whites would disappear and the buffalo would return. The Indians began to make Ghost Shirts that a bullet could not go through (they thought).

Settlers in the area became alarmed and called for army intervention.

Frederick Remington did a series of paintings showing the Medicine man giving the signal to start the attack. They then found the Ghost Shirts didn’t work as promised.

The military officer, who was his guide was murdered with an arrow from the “peaceable” indians.


48 posted on 01/24/2013 8:41:48 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: TXnMA

It would be suicide. Many gun owners are/were in the military and could take out these traitorous military leaders in short order. In other words, bring it on and be careful what you wish for.


49 posted on 01/24/2013 8:52:51 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: fattigermaster
Obama saying we are right wing extremists/terrorists at war with this country is entirely an exercise in semantics.

Well, no, it's a legal distinction. In the case I mentioned, a Sioux was acquitted because his nation was at war with the USA when he killed the officer.

Insurrection has to meet certain legal standards to be considered such in court.

Which is not to say that the legal system can't be corrupted or ignored, but if that's going on the semantics are pretty an unimportant issue.

50 posted on 01/24/2013 9:48:23 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: mdmathis6

They’ll frag their officers first before they lay down there weapons.


51 posted on 01/24/2013 9:58:53 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MestaMachine; All
"All Nobel Prize nominees are not exactly trustworthy. "

I had the same concern -- so I checked out his Facebook postings. The guy appears to be as right-wing, pro-Constitution, pro 2nd Amendment as a good FReeper.

In fact he just posted a link to a video that is better than the article I posted. In it, he is interviewed, (for some 20 minutes) and it is 100% ANTI-0bama. And, on many subjects, he "rips Øbozo a new one"!

Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?

Watch the whole video. Garrow talks about much more than guns -- and he (an obvious expert on China) talks at length about Øbozo's ties with China -- and reveals the fact that (behind his back) the Chinese call Øbozo "Monkey Man" and consider him to be a traitor to the United States of America!

If it has not already been posted, I will immediately post this video as a new FR article. It is a "Must-see",

Then, I will direct readers of this thread to the new one...

52 posted on 01/24/2013 9:59:06 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
"Warning shot will not be fired."

Works both ways.

53 posted on 01/24/2013 10:11:39 AM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Admin Moderator; MestaMachine; All
Please re-direct further viewers of this thread to my new one (with the video) at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981446/posts

Thank you!!

I am closing down this thread. Please go to the new one linked above

TXnMA (Original Poster of this thread)

54 posted on 01/24/2013 10:40:09 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: All; Jim Robinson

Belay my previous instructions!

The Admin Moderator pulled that thread with the (non) explanation, "No thanks".

WTH is going on? That post was just a link to a video interview with the source of at least four FR articles on this subject -- so FReepers can judge for themselves if the source is legit.

Jim, is this the FR you want? This video appears to be on the verge of going viral on Facebook and elsewhere. If this is proven to be legit, FR is going to look pretty feeble... All I ask is that FReepers be allowed to view and judge for themselves.

TXnMA (not a newbie...)

55 posted on 01/24/2013 11:17:28 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Just ping to the new info on this thread. We’ll get it.


56 posted on 01/24/2013 11:49:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: TXnMA

I hope someone with the ability to do real investigative reporting is dogging this rumor.


57 posted on 01/24/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: CitizenUSA
"I want more evidence than simply the word of someone who talked to someone who said it’s happening."

Ditto! This is the problem with the internet and it's symptom of how fast rumors can spread. ..."I heard this directly from the neighbor of the cousin of the girl who's brother's ex-girlfriend's great uncle was on the Woodstock Album cover"

58 posted on 01/24/2013 1:41:10 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: TXnMA
I saw your posts yanked! You're welcome to come over to RochesterConservative.com where we have the video posted and are actively discussing this!

Video: Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?

Not sure why the moderators yanked your thread, but we can discuss it freely on the RochesterConservative.com Forum!

59 posted on 01/24/2013 5:27:16 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

Thanks, but... Since we FReepers with a dozen years’ faithful seniority can still appeal to a “higher power” and get our posts un-yanked, I don’t yet see a reason to give up on a twelve-year investment.


60 posted on 01/24/2013 7:28:47 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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