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To: daniel1212
"...Spirit of Christ, which occurs when one is born again, which is not a process, but a conversion event realized thru believing the word of truth, the gospel of salvation."

I essentially agree with this, but would add that the one converting, as a part of that "event" also repents of his former self and accepts Christ's atonement completely in his/her life and thereby becomes a changed creature, who seeks to follow Christ, immulate Him, bring others to Him, and keep His commandments, despite the weakness of their own mortality.

To such an one, Christ promises forgiveness and salvation through His miraculous gift and atonement.

185 posted on 09/20/2012 12:26:37 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head; fabian

Indeed. I was contrasting that Scriptural conversion to Masters messiahship, which (Fabian apparently thought you were defending) is collective explained in various posts here, such as,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=16#16

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=50#50

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=87#87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=119#119

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=131#131

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=134#134

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=172#172

And if being in subjection means one cannot be of the same nature and essentially equal and “one” thereby, then women are not human, and are not one with their husbands. (1Cor. 11:3)


194 posted on 09/20/2012 6:52:54 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Jeff Head
I essentially agree with this, but would add that the one converting, as a part of that "event" also repents of his former self and accepts Christ's atonement completely in his/her life and thereby becomes a changed creature, who seeks to follow Christ, immulate Him, bring others to Him, and keep His commandments, despite the weakness of their own mortality.

Unless the person is a MURDERER; then Christ's blood is to no avail: the perp's OWN blood must be shed to atone for his own sin.

201 posted on 09/20/2012 8:25:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jeff Head
I essentially agree with this, but would add that the one converting, as a part of that "event" also repents of his former self and accepts Christ's atonement completely in his/her life and thereby becomes a changed creature, who seeks to follow Christ, immulate Him, bring others to Him, and keep His commandments, despite the weakness of their own mortality.

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


202 posted on 09/20/2012 8:27:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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