[Elsie]

I essentially agree with this, but would add that the one converting, as a part of that "event" also repents of his former self and accepts Christ's atonement completely in his/her life and thereby becomes a changed creature, who seeks to follow Christ, immulate Him, bring others to Him, and keep His commandments, despite the weakness of their own mortality.

Unless the person is a MURDERER; then Christ's blood is to no avail: the perp's OWN blood must be shed to atone for his own sin.

[Yossarian]

Unless the person is a MURDERER; then Christ's blood is to no avail: the perp's OWN blood must be shed to atone for his own sin.

Well, in my simple view of what God, the Creator of EVERYTHING and EVERY SOUL can do...

...if He wants to forgive a murderer, He certainly can do it. And I'm quite sure the Bible says that Christ - both Son of, and consubstantially the same as, the Creator - died for all our sins, not just some of them.

[Tuanedge]

Never heard of this guy before; researched tlhim and listened to a tape of his show. This guy hit a slippery spot on the way to creating his cult and dlid all the way past it into convincing himself he’s a god. Swings a five hundred pound brass balled ego on a chain yet hates a mirror worse than Dracula.

Brings to an end any curiosity I have about this man...all I can say is, if he offers you a free trip into the jungle to build a holy city, DON’T GO.

Yikes, cubed.