[daniel1212]

Indeed. I was contrasting that Scriptural conversion to Masters messiahship, which (Fabian apparently thought you were defending) is collective explained in various posts here, such as,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=16#16

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=50#50

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=87#87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=119#119

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=131#131

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=134#134

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2931985/posts?page=172#172

And if being in subjection means one cannot be of the same nature and essentially equal and “one” thereby, then women are not human, and are not one with their husbands. (1Cor. 11:3)

[fabian]

you make no sense there...God does not serve his father! Good lord, you have lost your common sense man.

[fabian]

Someone where called me a liar or such for writing that for the first three centuries after Christ, he was NOT seen as God at all, but the son of God. This is from Wikipedia and other sources back it up. I was correct and the further away we got from the loving Jesus, the more the church became deceived and now does the deceiving for gullible types like you to help propagate the apostasy.

Tertullian, a Latin theologian who wrote in the early 3rd century, is credited with using the words “Trinity”,[11] “person” and “substance”[12] to explain that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are “one in essence—not one in Person”.[13]

About a century later, in 325, the First Council of Nicaea established the doctrine of the Trinity as orthodoxy and adopted the Nicene Creed, which described Christ as “God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance (homoousios) with the Father”.