I guess STUNNED would be appropriate word to use right about here...
Posted on 09/16/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by fabian
Now celebrating 52 years of helping people on the radio! For over half a century Roy Masters has been helping people overcome their most difficult problems. As the nation’s first and longest running radio counselor, Roy Masters has advised callers with a unique ability to hear inner problems, heal fears and sexual stresses, and help people take charge of their own lives. Great show and exactly what the world needs! Here is a radio show stations page... http://www.fhu.com/radiostations.html
You've only provided an out of context verse that YOU didn't even cite - AT ALL.
The awake people reading this can see who is the false Christians here.
Yes we are awake - and as the multiple translations elsie posted prove that what your master calls 'patience' is not the patience of the bible, nor resembles in any form the passage you 'quoted'.
You guys are honestly very robotic and immature.
We are very honest - your replies are robotic and immature.
Therefore, I have trouble accepting the expression that "Jesus is God," since for me that means "Jesus is the Father," the source of all wisdom. I do believe that as God's Anointed—as the Father's Son in whom He was well pleased--judgment over men was given to Jesus, and He is deserving of worship
He refuses to accept Jesus as God - Strike One
Masters sees Christian salvation as a process of God's work reclaiming the corrupted hearts, minds, and consciences of individuals who repent of their weakness. His teaching emphasizes individual conscience and adherence to life principles, mainly from a psychological or philosophical perspective, with little discussion of traditional Christian themes.
Masters denies the atonement of Jesus on the cross and the necessity to believe on him to be saved - strike two
Our purpose is to provide you the way to the answer within that alone can fill the meaningless void. The way to the way is inward, where salvation has awaited your coming for 2000 years.
Wrong again masters, Jesus said he was the way, the truth and the life - not some mystic eastern new age variant - Strike three. Not Christian teachings but not surprising since it comes from a non-Christian.
You have zero understanding of how the comforter/holy spirit moves and saves us....because you only have learned your “salvation”. Big mistake.
And I have provided nothing out of context...that is what you guys have done in spades. Quit projecting.
Since you are relying upon this huckster for your 'salvation', then I would say you are the one with zero understanding.
And I have provided nothing out of context...that is what you guys have done in spades. Quit projecting.
Well, when you lie and say you've provided bible quotes (plural) and only provide one (singular)(not properly referenced) that is wrenched violently out of context and with a deceptive definition of 'patience', well the truth prevales fabie, go have your ears tickled some more.
Have a good one!
There's yer problem!
He claims that one must have overcome his or her emotional problems in order to be saved and that it has taken him 50 or so years to “save his wife.”
His son David had an extremely messy divorce from his wife that involved allegations of physical abuse from both Roy and David. In particular Roy got into a physical fight with his two granddaughters! It began when he accused them of being demon-possessed. He does claim, in his defense, that he was acting in self-defense. He said something along the lines of, “when your grandchild is coming at you, you can’t just stay there like a wimp and do nothing.” So he slapped them down.
He even lied to Oprah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(AP) In a stunning switch from dismissive to disgusted, Oprah Winfrey took on one of her chosen authors, Roy Masters, accusing him on live television of lying about
“The Roy Masters Story” and letting down the many fans of his memoir of being a cult leader.
“I feel duped,” she said on her syndicated talk show. “But more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers.”
Masters, who found himself booed in the same Chicago studio where he had been embraced not long ago, acknowledged that he had lied.
A sometimes angry, sometimes tearful Winfrey asked Masters why he “felt the need to lie.” Audience members often groaned and gasped at Masters halting, stuttered admissions that certain facts and characters had been “altered” but that the essence of his memoir was real.
“I don’t think it is a novel,” Masters said of his book, which had initially been offered to publishers, and rejected by many, as fiction. “I still think it’s a memoir.”
The broadcast, rare proof that the contents of a book can lead to great tabloid TV, marked an abrupt reversal from the cozy chat two weeks ago on “Larry King Live,” when Winfrey phoned in to support Masters and label alleged fabrications as “much ado about nothing.”
“I left the impression that the truth is not important,” Winfrey said of last week’s call, saying that “e-mail after e-mail” from supporters of the book had cast a “cloud” over her judgment.
Masters was questioned about various parts of his book, from the jail sentence he now says he never served for practicing hypnotism without a medical license to running a religious cult, a story he no longer clearly recalls.
Roy Masters’ story about growing up in Brighton, England and living through World War II turned out to be a fantasy as well. “My real name is Reuben Obermeister. I was born in Brooklyn, attended PS 18 and my first job was a door-to-door bagel salesman,” said Masters to the stunned audience of mostly women. “After a few years as a beatnik poet in the clubs of Greenwich Village, I traveled the country as a carnival barker — not as the nation’s first radio overnight advice giver and cult leader.”
Winfrey, whose apparent indifference to the memoir’s accuracy led to intense criticism, including angry e-mails on her Web site, subjected Masters to a virtual page-by-page interrogation. No longer, as she told King, was she saying that emotional truth mattered more than the facts. “Mr. Bravado Tough Guy,” she mockingly called the author whose book she had enshrined last fall and whose reputation she had recently saved.
Three years ago, Masters stepped up as publishing’s latest and baddest bad boy, with tattoo on his arm “FHU is the bitch” and bearing a defiant and unprintable message. Winfrey’s selection made his book a million seller and Masters a hero to many who believed his story was theirs.
“ I thought of myself as being tougher than I was and badder than I was, and it helped me cope,” Masters said on Winfrey’s show. “And when I was writing the book, instead of being as introspective as I should have been, I clung to that image.”
The book’s publisher, the Foundation of Human Understanding, were not spared. Winfrey noted that her staff had been alerted to possible discrepancies in Masters’ book, only to be assured by the publisher. She lectured FHU on its responsibilities: “I’m trusting you, the publisher, to categorize this book whether as fiction or autobiographical or memoir.”
In a statement issued later Thursday, FHU, which initially had called the allegations not worth looking into, said it had “sadly come to the realization that a number of facts have been altered and incidents embellished.”
Winfrey has banned Roy Masters from her show for life. She has also discontinued her subscription to New Dimensions Magazine, a magazine which Roy Masters claimed he never had anything to do with
more slander..and you call yourself a Christian? That stuff is fiction..do not know where you got it from. Wow..amazing how much you hate the man.
Nope...that is your problem! Where do you think the authors of the bible got their insights? The holy spirit....daaaa! You have a bible religion, not the real thing.
that entire story is faked...by an author who write fictitious things like that for humor and I guess slander so people like you, who do no research, will believe it.
“10-30-2007, 03:21 PM
I’ve searched high and low for this Oprah/Roy story and can find nothing about it. I even searched the Associated Press archives, but did not find it. The only thing I found was an excerpt on the following site, but it looks like it was taken from the Stein site, even though it does not say that:
http://www.gatago.org/alt/royalty/62155316.html
Stein has many pages about Roy that are not real, and are obviously just humor, however this story is presented as real, and does not suggest ridiculous and far-fetched stories like some of the other pages. So, if this is not true, then he loses credibility. I think he needs to explain this.
And to answer the question about the picture, yes it’s fake.”
Yes his stuff is fiction - slickly packaged just like L ron hubbard.
Yep, not from eastern mystical mind control methods and yoga.
no, her slanderous post for which she did not research and find that out. Yet she calls herself a Christian. Ok.
You guys do not really give a rat’s behind about the truth, you just have a deep need to be right here, even when you are not.
You are overheating fabie - probably need to assume a yoga position and start some eastern mediation (medication?)
Sounds too honest for both of them.
In reality, you can only argue by denigrating those who oppose you as being unenlightened, as rather than arguing from your personal type of “holy spirit” light flash “beyond our understanding” by which anything can be esoterically asserted, they examine doctrine after the manner in which Scripture so often illustrates, that of what the words according to context, genre, grammar etc., and in reliance upon the person of the Holy Spirit of God to illuminate it accordingly, as concerns doctrine as well as in personal application.
That words are focused upon and doctrine taught thereby (Mt. 19:4-6) is seen among the abundant internal references in Scripture: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Bible/2Tim_3.html#Partial and the Lord established His claims by Scriptural substantiation. (Lk. 22:44, etc.)
In so doing we see the Holy Spirit teaching that Jesus is God, being one with the Father by Divine nature, (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/DEITYofCHRIST.html) and such things as that the written Scriptures are not the same thing as common paper, including the toilet kind, with what is revealed as you read it only being holy, nor many other things.
I guess STUNNED would be appropriate word to use right about here...
Not at all...happy as a clam here. Have a good one! Nice picture of Elsie up there btw.
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