Posted on 05/25/2012 8:39:14 AM PDT by re_tail20
The US Army is moving forward with their competition to evaluate rifles which may be selected to replace the M4. Part of the ongoing process to see if the market can provide a rifle that shows measurable improvement over the M4 that started back in 2005 with the XM8 project, it appears as if at least five companies have made it to round two of the Individual Carbine competition.
The companies that are moving on to the second stage are Adcor Defense, Colt Defense, FNH USA, Heckler & Koch and Remington. The rifles are the Adcor Defense BEAR Elite, the Colt ACC-M (sometimes called the ACM), the FN FNAC, the Heckler & Koch HK416 and the Remington ACR.
There may be others who have also made the cut but not spoken up; regulations prohibit the Army from publishing which companies are moving on, while these companies have announced their success independently.
"The Army's intent is to ensure that the competition is as fair as possible," Army spokesman Matthew Bourke said in a written response to a Military.com request. "The Army does not want to adversely affect the competition in any way. Providing the names of potential offerors; the number of proposals received, and/or any details pertaining to the offerors and/or their proposals has the potential to skew the competition."
Phase one of the competition was to see which companies could meet the Army's "Threshold Requirements," which include technical specifications of the rifles that must be met for the rifle to be considered at all, such as rails for optics and other accessories which have become necessary in the field, and the ability to use existing M320 grenade launchers and M26 shotguns...
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A long time ago, one of the most frequently cited objections was the shortened sight radius. Optical sights have made that a non-issue.
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40 watt range?
“One shot, one incineration.”
Dang it, Laz, now I am going to have to fire up New Vegas...
I have been using a Hk 416 for a year now an thousands rounds in training and quals etc ...... without a problem, and I have tried to reproduce all the problems I encountered during my military career with the M16 platform. All Black Hills Mk 262 is issued. DODIC is A053.
Gear and memorymatic handling skills as well as ergonomics of the Hk 416 is why I suggest keeping it as a basic issue.
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I’d enjoy these threads a lot more if any of these were actually legally available to us peasants.
It’s a gun! And all this time I’ve been deleting those e-mails...
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I’ve always deleted those emails as well. I mean, who needs two?
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We should shut down these idiotic small weapons projects. The DOD isn’t going to select any of the outcomes of whatever testing they use.
Colt already has the contracts wired and the skids greased in Congress. Unless and until someone puts Colt out of business (and they deserve to be put out of business), we’re not moving away from the M16/M4 or the 5.56 NATO round.
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“We should shut down these idiotic small weapons projects. The DOD isn’t going to select any of the outcomes of whatever testing they use.
Colt already has the contracts wired and the skids greased in Congress. Unless and until someone puts Colt out of business (and they deserve to be put out of business), we’re not moving away from the M16/M4 or the 5.56 NATO round.”
Just yesterday I read a report that Remington has received a contract to make new M4s.
Not gonna happen. They have 614.68 gazillion berillion gumillion rounds inventoried in 5.56. They also keep insisting that it is doing fine, reporting excellent accuracy at way-out there ranges, too.
Some fellows report that it isn't really lethal enough, being a now highly stabilized, light weight, 77 gr bullet. Sort of drills neat holes where you want them, but doesn't always put the bad guys away quick enough.
Not quite right, possibly.
Colt had to return the technical data rights on the M4 and no longer has a monopoly.
They recently had to hire a lobbyist for the first time, like the other companies.
The big hurdle isn’t Colt, but the M4 itself.
The Army has set a very high bar for the other rifles. Any rifle that wants to take the place of the M4 has to first outperform the improved M4 in testing. It then has to prove to the Army that its improved performance is economically worth it to replace all of the M4’s.
But it is possible for Remington, FN, and or Heckler and Koch to clear both these obstacles, deliver superior performance in both of these, and put the Army in a place where it can’t pull any bureaucratic tricks.
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