Atlantis: The Evidence [ Thera, Crete, the usual modern myths ]

Watchumentary ^ | January 1st, 2011 | BBC, Timewatch, Natalie Maynes, Bettany Hughes

[SunkenCiv]

In this Timewatch special, historian Bettany Hughes unravels one of the most intriguing mysteries of all time.

She presents a series of geological, archaeological and historical clues to show that the legend of Atlantis was inspired by a real historical event -- the greatest natural disaster of the ancient world.

She is tracing the origins of the Atlantis myth and presenting evidence that the Thera eruption inspired Plato's account of the mystical land.

2,400 years ago Greek philosopher Plato wrote of an ancient island civilization of unparalleled wealth and splendor, which was struck by earthquakes and floods and was swallowed up by the sea in one grievous day and night.

"But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island." (Plato, as translated by Benjamin Jowett).

[SunkenCiv]

Also found in entire on YouTube:

Historian Bettany Hughes examines The Minoan eruption of Thera, which was a major catastrophic volcanic eruption estimated to have occurred in the mid-second millennium BC. The eruption was one of the largest volcanic events on Earth in recorded history. The eruption devastated the island of Thera (also called Santorini), including the Minoan settlement at Akrotiri, as well as communities and agricultural areas on nearby islands and on the coast of Crete. The eruption seems to have inspired certain Greek myths and may have also caused turmoil in Egypt. Additionally, it has been speculated that the Minoan eruption and the destruction of the city at Akrotiri provided the basis for or otherwise inspired Plato's story of Atlantis.

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Ireland Is Lost Island of Atlantis, Says Scientist
	Posted by Red Badger On News/Activism 08/06/2004 3:41:50 PM EDT · 80 replies · 2,303+ views REUTERS | 8/6/2004 | Kevin Smith DUBLIN (Reuters) - Atlantis, the legendary island nation over whose existence controversy has raged for thousands of years, was actually Ireland, according to a new theory by a Swedish scientist. Atlantis, the Greek philosopher Plato wrote in 360 BC, was an island in the Atlantic Ocean where an advanced civilization developed some 11,500 years ago until it was hit by a cataclysmic natural disaster and sank beneath the waves. Geographer Ulf Erlingsson, whose book explaining his theory will be published next month, says the measurements, geography, and landscape of Atlantis as described by Plato match Ireland almost exactly. "I am...

[SunkenCiv]

Alas, there is none.

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I watched this on YouTube earlier today. Besides being tediously derivative, Hughes' pattern of using a small handful of over-the-top adjectives ("incredible!" for one example) is difficult to miss in this mess. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.

[GeronL]

They need more clothes apparently

[muawiyah]

What everybody needs to do is keep their eye on the description of the city.

There's one near Lake Titicaca in Chile and another Doñana National Park in Spain (and there are references to another one just like it on the Portuguese coast somewhere).

That's the only way you get a link up to the Egyptian interest in these places ~ cocaine inside the Mummies!

[blam]

"That's the only way you get a link up to the Egyptian interest in these places ~ cocaine inside the Mummies! "

I always considered that King Solomon's miners in Peru could have brought back the cocaine and nicotine and sold it to the Egyptians.

[blam]

Santorini Eruption Much larger Than Originally Believed

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks blam.

• New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption

[SunkenCiv]

That pic is from an Egyptian wall painting. It is used in the documentary, but seems an odd choice to whomever, uh, uploaded it to YT.

[GeronL]

Yes, why is that the image they pulled from the video?

Looks like a place they’d be getting lapdances. lol.

Is the nearly naked ladies the servants?

[SunkenCiv]

Egypt’s hot a good part of the year, and some of the linen clothing the Egyptians made was so sheer it barely shows up in these paintings.

[GeronL]

I understand that for a lot of their history most children wore nothing until puberty started. Maybe the servant is barely into puberty?

[SunkenCiv]

There’s nothing above the waves resembling Plato’s description of Poseidonia; either it’s under the Atlantic (which is exactly what he said; the shoal mud he describes remained in his own time according to his own report, a detail that Bettany Hughes ignores of course. As the Aegean was navigable in Plato’s time, and during the Trojan War, the pumice generated by the imaginary 2nd millennium BC supereruption has nothing to do with the description of shoal mud) and the island (larger than Libya and Asia combined, another detail that is not true of Santorini) was submerged suddenly (another detail that isn’t true of tiny Santorini) and may be entirely imaginary anyway. Perhaps some details were borrowed from diverse old folklore, I mean, doesn’t the Black Sea flood make sense as a source of some of that?.

[SunkenCiv]

Well actually, I haven’t seen this much concern about nudity in art in a long time, and so hadn’t given it much thought. The bottom line is, they weren’t us.

[fieldmarshaldj]

3rd from the right is not guilty.

[GeronL]

I was thinking about Egyptians when I wrote that, anyway, what does ancient Egypt have to do with Greece anyways?

[GeronL]

I think I have to agree. sadly. lol

[fieldmarshaldj]

If the one on the far left hadn’t received a de facto Brazilian via a chipped mural, she’d be the hottest. ;-D

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1180724/posts?page=6#6

[snip] Akroteri, a Minoan city on the south part of Thera, is being excavated. About 3-6 feet (1-2 m) of ash fell on the city which had a population of about 30,000. The residents appear to have been successfully evacuated prior to the eruption. No bodies have been found in the ash like those at Vesuvius. Archeologists also reported that movable objects had been taken from the city... The Kameni Islands formed after the caldera. Eleven eruptions since 197 B.C. have made the two islands. [/snip]