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FWIW. U6 is now 12.2%. When lies become accepted fact, what is the counter to them?
1 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:16 AM PDT by pabianice
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FWIW. U6 is now 12.2%. When lies become accepted fact, what is the counter to them?

Indeed. U6 is not the unemployment rate, by the way. Don't try to engage me in that specious debate. Look up the definition and acknowledge it.

2 posted on 05/04/2012 9:44:27 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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I honestly do not think he should include recruiting numbers for Al Qaeda in that declaration...


3 posted on 05/04/2012 9:48:59 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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This bozo is living in a parallel universe. Just where in the hell does he get such numbers? And are any RINOs going to challenge them?


4 posted on 05/04/2012 9:50:46 AM PDT by laweeks
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The government created NOTHING. It just created dependency. That is all it ever does.

I suspect that Obama and his funny numbers are bogus. Just like anything to come out of this fools mouth is.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 9:53:54 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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I happened to catch Shep Smith on FNC yesterday when he said the unemployment applications went down to 365,000 (or something like that), less than what the fed expected, and claimed that that was good news for Zero.

To me, it means 365,000 more people were now unemployed.

7 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:22 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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Now, is that a net number of 40,000 jobs a week or is it versus minimum each of those weeks of 350,000 NEW unemployment claims?


9 posted on 05/04/2012 9:56:38 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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And the actual number of unemployed persons rose by 7 million in the past 26 months.


11 posted on 05/04/2012 9:58:22 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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Here’s a good line for Romney to use: “If we had a president who had ever learned how to read a balance sheet or an income statement, maybe we could believe his numbers. But Obama’s track record with accuracy of numbers isn’t too good.”


12 posted on 05/04/2012 9:59:37 AM PDT by Maceman
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They must be counting the snow jobs.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 10:02:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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"YOU LIE!!!!"

14 posted on 05/04/2012 10:04:18 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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He created 4 million composite jobs


15 posted on 05/04/2012 10:05:18 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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...and China thanks you.


17 posted on 05/04/2012 10:06:24 AM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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Simple. When people go past the 99th week of benefit, they drop off the unemployment rolls.

They don’t show on the statistics. But they still don’t have jobs.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 10:07:29 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Janet Nepolitano must have assured the obozo that her agency has completed the injecting of delusional causing drugs into the country's water supply so enough of the people will now believe his horse sh#t no matter how absurd.
20 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:15 AM PDT by drypowder
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EXCELLENT

That means tax revenues should be way up
Food stamp and MEDICAID applications way down
Housing foreclosures slowing or reversing
Consumer confidence and spending on the rise

(crickets)


21 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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Bump


22 posted on 05/04/2012 10:23:41 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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Bump


23 posted on 05/04/2012 10:24:41 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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When the history of zer0’s pres-id-ency is written (if the truth is told) history will record this politician (zer0) was a complete failure and liar which even though backed fully by a lying lame-stream media couldn’t pull one single truth out of his ... (er) mouth. Am believing the truth will never be recorded, and subsequent generations will be guided to believe the zer0 was substantive, when zer0 actually equaled zer0.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 10:27:47 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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As regards the Big Lie technique, just how many times doe bald-faced lies have to be repeated before enough voters — to select 270 electors — believe them? This is how many times we will be fed this bullsh!t between now and November...(Prepare Thyself accordingly — perhaps with a good set of ear plugs, or?) Alas! “God Save America!”


26 posted on 05/04/2012 10:39:32 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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According to Progressive / neo-Marxist thinking, without government, people would die of starvation, even forget how to breath.

According to this view, from whatever arbitrarily chosen low point was employment in the past, all the increase since then is due to the government. (So was all the employment at that low point, but claiming that would too clearly expose the Progressive / neo-Marxist thinking.)

The contrary position is that a free-market economy tends, over the long run, to generate enough jobs so that we wind up with full employment, approximated as 4 - 6 percent unemployment. This happens through the “spontaneous order” of the marketplace.

Sometimes this is characterized by “Supply creates its own demand,” as said by the French economist Jean-Baptiste Say.

The way this works is as follows: Let’s say a new person slips into the economy from another dimension. The person, a he, she, both or neither, as who knows the sexuality of such persons, takes a job away from a hard-working American or perhaps even creates a job from nothing by opening a business.

This entity earns money and either spends it or saves it (Things get a little more complex if we assume the entity directly consumes the money, taking the money out of the money supply, and I could pursue the consequences of such disappearances of money, but not on this thread.)

To the extent the entity spends it, she / he or it (pronounced “she-he-it”) pumps demand into the marketplace as would support another job.

To the extent the entity saves the money, the financial system invests the money on the entity’s behalf, likewise pumping demand back into the marketplace.

Either way, like I said, supply creates its own demand.

Obviously, there’s the business cycle, and this “supply creating its own demand” thing doesn’t always happen. There are times when production of particular things gets out of kilter with demand for those things. For example, too many people making doo-hickies as compared to the demand for those rascally things, causing people in the doo-hickie industry to lose their jobs and investments.

If there’s a healthy profit motive out there, the existence of unemployed people and capital equipment, along with low interest rates, will spur the entrepreneurs amongst to start new businesses and get the economy back up to full employment.

Only, thanks to Mr. Big Ears in the White House and others like him, profits have been made into an evil thing, and are at the risk of being subject to confiscatory taxation and regulation. Hence, none of those bad entrepreneurs are getting us out of the tough times we’re in.

But not to worry, under Hebert Hoover and FDR, the economy languished in under-employment for twelve years. So, being only four years into this period of depressed economic conditions, we have many more years of this stuff to look forward to. And, the answer to that other extended period of depressed economic conditions was a world war, genocide, and mass bombings culminating in the dropping of two atomic bombs.

Such is the power of government!


27 posted on 05/04/2012 10:40:37 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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