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Caption this Photo(a N. Korean official at a press center in Pyongyang)
Yonhap News ^ | 04/13/12

Posted on 04/13/2012 6:16:33 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

A N. Korean official at a media center of a hotel in Pyongyang on Apr. 13 (probably after launch failure)



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KEYWORDS: failure; media; nkorea; rocket
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

consider that we with all our expertise and that of the German rocket scientists, we still had years of failures
in our programs. its math/science/engineering/program management, and being able to learn from failure.

they also need for there to be freedom to bring bad news
to the attention of management.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 7:59:51 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: TigerLikesRooster; monkapotamus

MONK I think we need your Gary Cole photoshop here with him directing phone lines ROFL


42 posted on 04/13/2012 8:05:41 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Just heard that the US announced the food shipment would be “curtailed.”

Likely to be reintroduced in June...


43 posted on 04/13/2012 8:06:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I don’t understand why the NoKos can’t do this successfully, unless their engineering is hopelessly flawed, in which case they shouldn’t be staging these pie-in-our-own-face circuses.

Some things are just difficult. You can't simulate everything (such as the effects of vibration, thermal shock loads, timing issues on separation, etc.). The US had a couple of dozen failures in our early rocket program. Remember Vanguard?

  1. Vanguard TV3 - December 6, 1957 - Failed to orbit 1.36 kg (3 lb) satellite
  2. Vanguard TV3 Backup - February 5, 1958 - Failed to orbit 1.36 kg (3 lb) satellite
  3. Vanguard 1 - March 17, 1958 - Orbited 1.47 kg (3.25 lb) satellite
  4. Vanguard TV5 - April 28, 1958 - Failed to orbit 9.98 kg (22 lb) satellite
  5. Vanguard SLV 1 - May 27, 1958 - Failed to orbit 9.98 kg (22 lb) satellite
  6. Vanguard SLV 2 - June 26, 1958 - Failed to orbit 9.98 kg (22 lb) satellite
  7. Vanguard SLV 3 - September 26, 1958 - Failed to orbit 9.98 kg (22 lb) satellite
  8. Vanguard 2 - February 17, 1959 - Orbited 10.8 kg (23.7 lb) satellite
  9. Vanguard SLV 5 - April 13, 1959 - Failed to orbit 10.3 kg (22 lb 11 oz) satellite
  10. Vanguard SLV 6 - June 22, 1959 - Failed to orbit 10.3 kg (22 lb 11 oz) satellite
  11. Vanguard 3 - September 18, 1959 - Orbited 22.7 kg (50 lb) satellite

The joke was that Vanguard was like a government worker: 'You can't fire it and you can't make it work.'

44 posted on 04/13/2012 8:08:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Confucius also say man who lose big rocket lose little rocket.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 8:08:49 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (kimchee dud?? ???? Who knew?)
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To: RetSignman

He is in really, REALLY, deep kimchee...


46 posted on 04/13/2012 8:09:40 AM PDT by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: Carry_Okie

Vanguard got up, sat down


47 posted on 04/13/2012 8:12:06 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup?? ???? Who knew?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The reporter in the blue jacket is thinking, “If I laugh, they are going to kill me and BBQ my family. This is very hard, holding it in...”


48 posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:30 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Ground Control to Major Tom
Ground Control to Major Tom”


49 posted on 04/13/2012 8:45:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

———The US will send $250 million in food, hoping to change the attitude of the NK.————

Interesting comment upon which I can shed some real light.

I spoke last week with a man with an organization called Samaritan’s Purse. They have a program involving Shoe Boxes of stuff and I think food. This is the organization of Franklin Grahm and operates from their Charlotte facility

He told me they have a shipment for North Korea ready to go but it was put on hold by the US government because of the rocket. Now that the rocket is failed, one wonders if the rescinded permit will be reinstated?


50 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:52 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
No tree bark for YOU!

LOL - good one.

51 posted on 04/13/2012 10:57:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A high-five and a “jinx!” I think my word was “dogmeat,” though.


52 posted on 04/13/2012 3:13:07 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Isn’t a rocket launch and guidance based on science on mathematics? If so, shouldn’t the launch be nothing more than what the engineers have proved and re-proved time and time again in working out all the various scenarios? How can these engineers have a launch that fails.

A liquid fueled rocket is best described as a "controlled explosion". There is a very fine line between controlled and uncontrolled however. A missile is a very complex machine with thousands of parts. A failure of any one part can compromise it's flight. The more parts there are the more things that can go wrong. Modern missiles are designed with the absolute minimum of parts since any redundancy would increase weight and lead to more complexity, both undesirable traits. I am surprised that the North Koreans have not transitioned to solid fuel rockets as Iran has done. The difference being the elimination of much of the failure prone machinery used to move the fuel and oxidizer from storage tanks to the engine.

US missiles (except cruse missiles) whether land or underwater based, are all solid fueled. Solid fueled rockets are as dependable as a rifle cartridge, light the fire and it goes every time. The only advantage that liquid fuel has over solid is the ability to vary the thrust in flight which is not worth the complexity. If you want to shorten the range of a given solid fueled missile you could program the guidance system to track a steeper ballistic trajectory rather than vary the thrust.

Regards,
GtG

53 posted on 04/13/2012 4:04:39 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"Man...this job really sucks."
54 posted on 04/13/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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