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Cat5e or Cat6 from outdoor Ubiquiti wireless dish?

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:02 AM PST by John1111

I had a local service provider mount two Ubiquiti 900MHz wireless dishes between our two buildings yesterday and I found out that they used Ubiquiti Level 2 Cat5e Tough Cable and not Cat6 cable as I initially discussed with them. It wasn't written down in the workorder specifically to utilize Cat6, but I remember asking them during the site survey if they would be using Cat6, in which the tech responded "yes". From a performance perspective, as well as future growth and planning, is it worth arguing with them to get them back out here to correct this and install Cat6 instead of the Cat5e that they ran? Although there are comparisons out there through internet searches comparing internal Cat5e to Cat6, I am unable to find anything to help me with my argument in outdoor wireless and the benefits (if any) with using Cat6. Can anyone shed some light here? Thank you!


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1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:06 AM PST by John1111
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To: John1111

http://www.cat-5-cable-company.com/faq-cat6-v-cat5e.html


2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:08 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: John1111

I’m told that putting a horse’s head in their bed helps.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:19 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: John1111

What is the general difference between category 5e and category 6?

The general difference between category 5e and category 6 is in the transmission performance, and extension of the available bandwidth from 100 MHz for category 5e to 200 MHz for category 6. This includes better insertion loss, near end crosstalk (NEXT), return loss, and equal level far end crosstalk (ELFEXT). These improvements provide a higher signal-to-noise ratio, allowing higher reliability for current applications and higher data rates for future applications.

http://www.broadbandutopia.com/caandcaco.html


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:30 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: John1111
Cat6 can handle more bandwidth. It is irrelevant right now, but in the future the Cat5e may not be able to support the bandwidth your provider can supply.

http://www.broadbandutopia.com/caandcaco.html

5 posted on 12/20/2011 8:37:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: John1111

Your Google-fu needs work, Grasshopper. A search for “Cat 6 vs cat 5e” came up with this (and others):

http://www.broadbandutopia.com/caandcaco.html

From what I read, you should insist they return to install the promised Cat 6.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 8:37:54 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: John1111

Unless your talking 10 gig ethernet I don’t see any benefit.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:05 AM PST by Smogger
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To: John1111

The biggest difference between Cat5e and Cat6 is marketing.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 8:38:18 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (No Mit Sherlock. No Mit, not now, not ever. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: John1111
I'm making do with Cat1.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 8:40:33 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: John1111

What were the agreed upon specifications of your contract? If it was so important, it should have been inserted in the plans and specs for the bid.

If they met those terms, they are not likely to be in breach of contract.

Merely discussing what was to be installed with the installer does not a contract make, especially when it is after the agreement has been reached and he is out there installing things already.

It would be different if they represented something falsely before entering into the agreement, as that may have been something that you relied on when you reached a price.

If these assumptions are correct, and you need the better version, you may have to pay for the change order to the contract.

IMHO.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 8:43:05 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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The throughput from a wireless dish is never going to come close to saturating 5e so it shouldn’t be an issue. It’s probably 1% of the capacity max?


11 posted on 12/20/2011 8:44:08 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Larry Lucido

that’s clever!


12 posted on 12/20/2011 8:45:53 AM PST by brivette
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To: Mount Athos

Agreed. They would have to replace the existing wireless setup with a massive upgrade to come close to using up the bandwidth of 5e. When they do that, they can put in cat 6. Cat 5e is massive overkill on wireless itself. 6 is double massive overkill.

Quality cat5e cable is perfect for that application.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 9:01:41 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: John1111

Cat5e should support gigabit Ethernet and you are after al connecting a radio which will not come anywhere near that speed of throughput.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 9:14:07 AM PST by e_castillo (Drill here drill now...)
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks for posting a pic of my 56K dial-up ISP.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 9:36:08 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'm making do with Cat1.
lol. Thanks for a much needed laugh this morning.

Freegards.
16 posted on 12/20/2011 9:54:58 AM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: John1111; raybbr
That link has a lot of bogus information. "Unless every single component in the network is gigabit rated, then you will never have a gigabit network, because your network will always run at the speed of your slowest device." - That simply is not true.

Cat5E cable is cheaper than Cat 6. If you had a contract for cat6 and particularly if you got charged for cat6, then you are getting ripped off. As far as actual internet throughput, you will not see any difference whatsoever unless you have a very long cable run.

17 posted on 12/20/2011 10:12:27 AM PST by douginthearmy (Leaning Newt)
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