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Vivid new Battle of the Bulge photos offer never-before-seen look....
Dailymail ^ | 12-17-11

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:48:40 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

Breath taking pics...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: battleofthebulge
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To: Guenevere

Our Dads could have rubbed elbows at one time or other or who knows, worked closely together. My Dad was all over India and Burma and into southern China.

God bless your Dad and all best wishes and thoughts to him and you.


121 posted on 12/18/2011 7:44:57 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: InvisibleChurch
In the late 70's, I was stationed in the Eifel region of Germany not too far from where these photos were taken. I remember our FTX's being brutally cold. They only lasted a couple of weeks, and of course, nobody was shooting at us.

Looking at the pictures, I am amazed at how little the cold weather clothing had changed from the 40's to the 70's.

By the time I retired, we had evolved to polypropelene, and Gore-Tex. Much better.

Seeing those pictures makes my feet cold.

122 posted on 12/18/2011 8:08:45 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: riri
Interesting. The Germans are always pretty wicked. IMO, a very mean culture. I lived among them for a few years and I could tell you some stories of plain out abject cruelty. For about 50 years they have been largely pacified with long vacations, sick days, kindergeld and other various “social benefits”. All one has to do is wait in a deli line with a group of Germans to see a microcosm of their nature.

Yep. Interesting.

During three tours in Germany, I found just the opposite.

Of course, the folks in the big cities are like big city folks anywhere. The Germans I met, lived with, and became lifelong friends with were "country" folks- farmers from the Eifel region. They took a certain amount of pride in taking care of "their" Americans- the soldiers that they rented apartments or houses to. Almost all of us were invited to Christmas celebrations, or at least given sweets and treats by our hosts. We were welcomed at fests, and community dances. I was always welcomed at the local Gasthaus, and the men there took a particular interest in teaching me German words and phrases.

I have lived among Americans for most of my 54 years, and can probably match your stories of "plain out abject cruelty" 10 to 1.

I submit, as Exhibit A, the recent burning alive of a lady in an elevator in NYC.

Since we are discussing stories of people we have "lived among... what ya got?

123 posted on 12/18/2011 8:25:29 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: momtothree

“My husband’s Uncle said that it felt like even the core of your bones were frozen. When he got back home, he hated the Winter. (He loved it when he was a kid... some things stay with you forever)”

My father was the same way——the summer couldn’t get too hot for him! And you were right in your other post-—they were all heroes, God bless them.


124 posted on 12/18/2011 8:36:52 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: cubreporter

“It’s NOT silly. I hope one day after much patience and viewing of BOB that you WILL see your dad. I will pray that you do and if you ever do.. you will have to come back to FR and let us all know. Merry Christmas and thanks to our father for his service.”

That made me tear up, but in a good way. :) I’ll be sure to come back and let you know. Thank you so much, and have a blessed Christmas.


125 posted on 12/18/2011 9:02:10 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: wbill
I watched the 60s movie "Battle of the Bulge" with my Grandfather. When it was over, I asked him what he thought of the flick. You see, he had caught it "on its original showing", as he blithely put it. He thought for a sec, and said "It was a fine movie, but no one looked cold enough."

That's about the kindest review I've ever seen for that god-awful movie.

126 posted on 12/18/2011 9:05:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mac_truck

He looks like the guy in Band of Brothers, who when asked about Patton, said, ‘How do I feel about being rescued by Patton? Well I’d feel pretty peachy, except for one thing, we didn’t f’in’ need to be rescued by Patton! Got that?’


127 posted on 12/18/2011 9:09:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
I think he headed the army at the time of the German offensive.
128 posted on 12/18/2011 9:11:07 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: warsaw44

“Do you have any idea what division or outfit he was in?”

He was in the 99th division (infantry).


129 posted on 12/18/2011 9:12:53 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: momtothree
Can’t you just feel the cold?! It just looks bitterly cold

I can't imagine having to fight in those conditions. Endless cold destroys the body, the mind and the spirit.....

As a kid growing up in northern Michigan, I loved the winter and all the sports opportunities it provided. As an adult, winter becomes the most depressing time of the year and the hardest to cope with......

As an addendum to your comment, they did not have the warmth enhancing clothing we have today. Frostbite was a major problem for those soldiers fighting in the winter......frozen feet, frozen hands and fingers....endless cold

130 posted on 12/18/2011 9:31:20 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: unkus
It's entirely possible....dad was there for 3 years....in Calcutta & Bombay mostly.....and spent some time on supply trains....

He has very fair skin and the Indian sun took its toll on him..

....since the War.he has had countless bouts of skin cancer.

...even now in the nursing home, the latest bout is probably a melanoma but they can't help him now....because of his dementia.

God bless your dad for his service!....and Merry Christmas to you.

131 posted on 12/18/2011 10:49:22 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: Guenevere

It’s entirely possible....dad was there for 3 years....in Calcutta & Bombay mostly.....and spent some time on supply trains....


I’d say they knew each other. My Dad was in Service and Supply and they shipped almost everything from Bombay via rail. Then over “The Hump” into China via air. And there was the Burma and Lido Road.

Dad was a Capt. then.


132 posted on 12/18/2011 10:59:16 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Guenevere

Dad has been gone for quite a while. Thank you.

May you have the best Christmas possible.


133 posted on 12/18/2011 11:05:36 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: riri
The Germans are always pretty wicked.

I think the Japs are the meanest people on earth. We have really done a good job pacifying them, for now, Their entire society/culture is based on warfare.

134 posted on 12/18/2011 11:17:55 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

My Dad was the Ship’s Photographer about a vessel in the South Pacific. He had his own darkroom onboard, and always made three prints of everything...One for the Navy, One for the Captain, and one for himself. I grew up looking at those pictures.

This is the first time I have seen the Battle of the Bulge in pictures. Amazing!

Thank you for posting.


135 posted on 12/18/2011 11:51:00 AM PST by left that other site
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To: central_va
I think I would have to agree with you about the Japanese.

Their record for mistreatment of non-Japanese civilians in conquered lands is so nauseating, so beyond imagination as not to be believed.

I have yet to meet a non-Japanese Asian that had any kind words about the Japanese. Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipino - they hate them even to this day.

136 posted on 12/18/2011 11:57:07 AM PST by warsaw44
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To: left that other site

Do you still have those photos??


137 posted on 12/18/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44
Mom has them in a shoebox. Here is one:
Kamakaze in a South Pacific Sea Battle.
138 posted on 12/18/2011 12:06:32 PM PST by left that other site
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To: Nailbiter

bfl


139 posted on 12/18/2011 12:12:46 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: zot

Thank you very much, Only 1 was familar to me.


140 posted on 12/18/2011 1:02:08 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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