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Hitler's Atlantic Wall: Should France preserve it?
BBC ^ | September 12, 2011 | Hugh Schofield

Posted on 09/13/2011 7:10:36 AM PDT by decimon

Sections of Hitler's Atlantic Wall are being restored by French enthusiasts. But should the Nazi fortification be fully embraced as part of the country's heritage?

Along 800 miles (1,287km) of French coast lie some of the most substantial and evocative vestiges of war-time Europe.

The so-called Atlantic Wall - Hitler's defensive system against an expected Allied attack - stretched all the way from the Spanish border to Scandinavia.

Inevitably, it was in France that the most extensive building took place. Today there are still thousands of blockhouses, barracks and gun emplacements visible along the French shore.

But in France there has been no effort up until now to preserve this extraordinary historical landmark.

Elsewhere, World War II bunkers have been renovated as tourist attractions or for educational visits. The internet boasts Atlantic Wall fan sites in Germany and the Netherlands - and strong interest in the UK - but nothing in France.

It is as though the nation was relieved to see the German defences slide inexorably into the sands - and oblivion.

But now - quite suddenly - a new mood has emerged. Recently, several local associations dedicated to safeguarding portions of the Wall have been set up in France.

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1 posted on 09/13/2011 7:10:38 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

ping


2 posted on 09/13/2011 7:13:26 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: decimon

Preserve it. Its part of history.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 7:14:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

As long as it doesn’t come out of my tax dollars and/or the US DOD budget.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 7:23:54 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: decimon

Depending on which country, France or England, gets islamacized first, it may come in handy.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 7:27:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cripplecreek
Preserve it. Its part of history.

I'd say it's certainly up to the French to decide. As for my opinion: imagine if China, Russia, or some other nation invaded the US and built something of significance. During this period, they not only killed many of us but humiliated us as a nation. Created a "brand", so to speak, of a weak and inconsequential America.

I would hope we would take to demolishing any such monument to our disgrace the minute we drove them out.

6 posted on 09/13/2011 7:30:46 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: unkus
History happened. Effacing historical structures because they make us uncomfortable is IMHO akin to burning books. At the very least a representative sample of the fortifications needs to be preserved.

It's not limited to Nazis. I've taken an interest in preserving CONUS Army Air Defence sites (AKA "Nike Sites"). One of the discouraging aspects of this is how thoroughly sites in liberal jurisdictions have been destroyed, even when there is no need. In most cases the land is repurposed as mere open space or obscure, ill-maintained parks. Sites in conservative areas have fared much better-some even have good restoration potential.

But even on the most devastated sites I've been able to recover the general plan and often operational details and distinctive features (including, on one site in Virginia, three hidden but otherwise pristine missile magazines). I'm leery of publishing my survey data lest I kick off another round of malicious digging and regrading.

7 posted on 09/13/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by jboot
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To: decimon

You don’t save it to remember the nazis. You save it to remember the men who stormed into the teeth of it,,, and to remind the young of what can happen if you let your defenses become ineffective. Save it,,,


8 posted on 09/13/2011 7:40:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: jboot

History happened. Effacing historical structures because they make us uncomfortable is IMHO akin to burning books


Exactly.


9 posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:31 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: jboot

The old Coast Artillery sites are interesting. Many do not realize they even existed.


10 posted on 09/13/2011 7:43:48 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: decimon

Pick a few good examples and preserve them (from an architectural viewpoint, some of the Atlantic Wall fortifications are remarkable!).
Sell the rest and let landowners decide what to do with them. I’ve seen Endicott Board fortifications converted into condos on Tybee Island, and WWII 16-inch gun emplacements converted into beach houses, and a post-Civil War magzine converted into living space / storm shelter on Sullivan Island.


11 posted on 09/13/2011 7:46:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Mr. Bird

wow... really? preserve that crap? tear down that wall. it’s history that can be left to the history books. you don’t leave monuments up to invaders, who were then beaten back and repelled. that wall is a monument, and monuments are for winners, not losers who killed 6 million Jews and Gypsies.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 7:48:56 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit

by the way Mr Bird, I agree with you , I meant to reply to someone else.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 7:49:44 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: DesertRhino
You save it to remember the men who stormed into the teeth of it,,, and to remind the young of what can happen if you let your defenses become ineffective.

When the German army had to go on the defensive it built a version of the Maginot Line.

14 posted on 09/13/2011 7:55:59 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Little Ray
Sell the rest and let landowners decide what to do with them

Exactly

15 posted on 09/13/2011 7:57:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Little Ray

Agree totally.


16 posted on 09/13/2011 7:57:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: decimon

Hitler could build an 800 mile wall in a couple of years. And we can’t secure a 1900 mile Mexican border in decades.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:42 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Hitler used slave labor. We use union labor.


18 posted on 09/13/2011 8:05:59 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: RitchieAprile
The old Coast Artillery sites are interesting. Many do not realize they even existed.

Those are very interesting. The Army ADA evolved out of the Army CDA, so there is alot of commonality in the structures. Fort Miles in DE-NJ is a great place to spend a weekend. There's even some guns still in place. Alas, the Army ADA sites get less attention. Maybe if there were still missles in place... ;-)

19 posted on 09/13/2011 9:56:30 AM PDT by jboot
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To: decimon

Unfortunately!the French should preserve portions of the Atlantic wall for posterity just to remind their citizens that evil could be just around the corner.

Besides the Atlantic wall is part of the History of France.Why discard it?


20 posted on 09/13/2011 10:22:33 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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