Yes
Note Japan.
Posted on 09/11/2011 9:40:45 AM PDT by Scotsman
9/11 played a significant part in this in a surprising way - the premise was that no other country could do what we have done in the last 10 years in the War on Terror.
And no other country can offer what we offer today - the ultimate Safe Haven, by any measure you want to use.
For later.
So the rest of the world is depending on us spending $700 billion a year on defense so that they don't have to?
Ron Paul? Is that you?
First, the simple answer: Yes.
I don't know you, you don't know me, but one thing I am certain of ... if we had not already been spending at that pace for longer than you and I have been alive, our lives would be wildly different, if you and I even were to be alive today.
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Like it or not, we ARE the world's policeman. We didn't want to be, most of us living our day-to-day lives don't understand all the ‘whys’ of it and don't really like it all that much.
Not all that many of us have stood on the bridge of a CVN and observed full war operations - all we know is that it seems horribly expensive.
But we got elected to the position. This summer, people, companies and governments around the world voted ...
... with their money.
When countries like the UK or France or Sweden get overrun by Muslim extremists, and people flap their hands and wonder how the people there can let that happen, I'm reminded of the words of Thomas Paine:
"Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered yet we have this consolation with us, the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
People who get their liberties handed to them or have them protected by others don't value them enough to fight for them themselves. If the rest of the world wants to disband their ability to defend themselves, relying on just one country to carry their water for them, then they deserve exactly what they get.
The European Social Experiment failed and they found themselves out of money and with minimal defenses. The price for all that is being paid as we type.
This time, as your quote elegantly points out ...
... their freedom will cost them.
The only people that ever reset a depression society, eliminate toxic assets and reset the economy bringing back jobs without a prolong recession was Hitler and Mussolini. Pres Coolidge would be the other but his model may not apply today because the America he dealt with was simple and gov small. Hitler and Mussolini had to deal with large gov and chaotic society. IMHO Pres Coolidge can use democracy and free market to help US get out of post WW1 depression, but in our large gov and diverse/complicated society this may not work as special interest will tie up Congress. This is what Mussolini and Hitler faced. Result was the situation had to be resolved thru a dictatorship.
I think if SHTF gov authority will emerge from democracy to dictatorship. That may be something freepers and preppers may have to deal with, especially if the dictatorship re establishes law and order, reset the banking debt and reset the economy with recovery and jobs. Hitler did it, to some extent Mussolini did it and Imperial Japan of the 1930’s did it. They were so successful that leading intellects actually wondered if democracy was no longer viable.
Imagine if one of the three did not waste the achievements on a world war and became one of the intact manufacturing centers of post WW2 like the US?? Modern world history would be different.
... our military is adapting technology very rapidly, in some instances even driving the technology.
UAVs of all sorts. Etc.
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Great post, Scotsman.
SoJoCo, our present enemies are the Muslim extremists and Communism in South America, Cuba, Russia, and China. All would love to destroy us. In addition, China is in an expansionist mood and they are quickly growing their military, especially the navy. Why do they need a larger navy? It is not to protect themselves for no one is threatening them. They need it to expand to other shores and to take over raw materials and additional territory. They intend to do that.
If the Muslims take over Europe and the once Great Britain. it is not just, well, too bad Europe. There are several large militaries in Europe and all of them have nuclear weapons. The Muslims love death because of their backward religion and killing us would be the biggest honor they think they can achieve for Allah. That would be a severe threat to you and to me.
Wake up! The time we could be a Fortress America and stay within our own shores has long passed.
They are, and they need to do more of it faster with the money they have and reallocate as it is proven.
dila, you can’t spell,lol!
If the people in Europe are not willing to defend themselves from the Muslim hordes then we can't do it for them. As much as they would apparently like us to. They have to step up to the plate and contribute to their own security. They apparently don't want to. Instead people expect us to do it in their stead. That isn't in our best interests.
Excellent post. Saved, printed, emailed.
Thank you.
Yes
Note Japan.
I totally agree with you. They sowed it, they need to reap it. We can't protect them from that. Not willing? I bet they will be very soon, when they find out there ain't no US Cavalry coming over the hill this time. We're a little busy over here, right now.
As an aside, I'd like to point out this thread is one of the best and most thoughtful I've seen here in a while...and it's a "vanity."
However, they will have to get beyond the past and face present realities.
Fee — while your observations are true to a large degree, Hitler and Mussolini did not drag their economies out of a depression and into successful Capitalist nations engaged in free trade and laissez-faire economics. And their nations did not emerge to give their people choices — or liberties — either in the economic or the political sense.
When Coolidge set in motion his reformsm his goal was to return us to the Constitution, to simple principles of capitalism, representative democracy based on the documents that formed the foundations of our Constitutional Republic.
Hitler and Mussolini first perverted their labor and/or corporate sectors of society (corporatism -—> Fascism) and then moved toward a form of government control of both the labor force and corporations. Then throw in the nationalist fervor of the Germans (Aryan superiority) and the Italians to their Roman past, and that’s the very definition of National Socialism or “Nazism” that was epitomized Hitlers Germany and Mussolini’s Fascist Italy. It’s also somewhat similar to the Corporatist structure being constructed by the Washington regime today in this nation (as well as FDR’s “New Deal” and FDR’s “Great Society” for that matter).
You’re right — we can’t turn America around easily by working through the system — elections, Congress, legislation, etc. HOWEVER, to think that a dictatorship might be an easier or acceptable alternative route is a false hope. Dictators rarely surrender their control benevolently back to the people, almost never willingly, and certainly not to a previous form of authority — like the Constitution our Founders gave us.
No, our hope is to change the system through the process. And, if we’re forced to operate outside those lines, then it must be for one purpose alone — to RESTORE the original Constitution as given to us by the Founders. Period. Anything other than that, and we’ll do more harm to ourselves, our nation and this world that we could ever do good.
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