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What can the Ancient Greeks do for us?
guardian.co.uk ^ | 1 August 2011 | Charlotte Higgins

Posted on 08/04/2011 6:28:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

The Greeks may have got the idea of coinage from their neighbours across the Aegean in Lydia, but the Greek world was the first society to use money in much the same way as we do – state-issued currency as a universal and guaranteed form of exchange.

Money was probably introduced in the early part of the 6th century BC – and was a wild success.

Its first mention, notes Richard Seaford in his book Money and the Early Greek Mind, comes in the laws written by the 6th-century Athenian reformer Solon, which, prosaically enough, lay down prices to be paid for animals in public sacrifices and standard rates of compensation for injuries. By the mid- to late-5th century BC, the great flowering of Greek intellectual life, money was universal and commonplace.

But it was still a fresh enough phenomenon to cause Greek writers to submit it to some powerful observations, as Seaford also points out.

The Greeks noted its seductive but somewhat suspect universality, the way it can be exchanged for absolutely anything – rather like a prostitute, who will go with anyone. In Aristophanes' comic play Wealth, money is characterised as a force with power over everything. You can have enough of all kinds of things, he writes – music, bread, sex, honour, courage, pea-soup – and yet nobody ever feels they have enough money. A fragment of Solon's poetry reads: "Of wealth there is no limit that appears to men. For those of us who have the most wealth are eager to double it."

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; numismatics
Charlotte Higgins is the author of It's All Greek to Me (Short Books)
1 posted on 08/04/2011 6:28:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: SunkenCiv

Thought you’d be interested...


2 posted on 08/04/2011 6:28:46 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java

inbeforethemontypythonreference


3 posted on 08/04/2011 6:31:03 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Freeper football "Free Men or Lickspittle". Ask me how and why!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

What have the Greeks ever done for us?


4 posted on 08/04/2011 6:39:05 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: COBOL2Java

And the Greeks are doing a fine job managing their money these days.....


5 posted on 08/04/2011 7:21:57 AM PDT by mikrofon (This .. is .. SPENDING!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Probably more than the Modern Greeks can do for us...


6 posted on 08/04/2011 7:24:03 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Thane_Banquo
What have the Greeks ever done for us?
7 posted on 08/04/2011 8:33:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

first representative senate.

first form of term limits

first form of universal language

math (not obama math)

physics

figured out how round the earth is

commerce on the seas

libraries as valuable

forced perspective

golden mean

mechanics

multiple military innovations

society of laws

discussion and voting on the discourse

language of the new testament

stoning those practicing undesirable social acts...

school

art (and teaching the brish what parts to steal)

proving hitler’s elites could be fought and beaten (crete 1941)

Defeating musulini


8 posted on 08/05/2011 12:52:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: matginzac

Greek organizations sold the most us war bonds of any private grooup during ww II


9 posted on 08/05/2011 12:53:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Okay, but apart from representative democracy, term limits, universal language, mathematics, physics, geography, commerce, libraries, forced perspective, the golden mean, mechanics, military innovations, laws, New Testament language, stoning of criminals, art, education, defeating Hitler, and Mussolini,

What have the Greeks ever done for us?

10 posted on 08/05/2011 1:20:16 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo

high heat ceramics for protective coatings.

pastries.

exporting their smartest to the USA. (there is a deep resentment there by that brain drain. those that stayed behind have this notion that those that prospered in the USA could have done their prospering in the current socialism of Greece.)

Marathon running industry. (can still run that marathon in marathon every year)

Olympic games. -pre doping

one of the hardest road rally races in world due to tough mountain roads

citizenship can be earned by more than mere birth.

beat back persians.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 1:40:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: COBOL2Java
Opa!
12 posted on 08/05/2011 1:44:41 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: longtermmemmory
The Miracle of Freedom: Seven Tipping Points That Saved the World [Hardcover] Chris Stewart

For the answer, see the chapter on Thermopylae and Salamis :)

13 posted on 08/05/2011 1:45:08 PM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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14 posted on 03/08/2022 8:40:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Oh, wow, thanks for the ping 11 years ago, I managed to miss it, but somehow managed to get the keywords in here. Must have just flot-out forgotten to post anything before.


15 posted on 03/08/2022 8:41:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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