Posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:03 AM PDT by MindBender26
We all know it's not over until the fat lady sings, and here in Orlando we hear the fat lady in the form of the Orange County Sheriff's Office may only be getting warmed up.
Contacts at the Sheriff's Office say they are actively investigating the possibility that at least one witness was tampered with, and now the Sheriff has confirmed this. The talk at breakfast this morning with some retired senior LEOs was that the most probable targets were either "River Cruz", the woman who undermined George Anthony's testimony by claiming she had an affair with him, or the son of meter reader Roy Kronk who found the body. The son gave testimony claiming his father was "only in it for the money." The defense spun that out that out to Kronk had lied, moved the body, etc.
Of course at this time, none of this is proven, but we do know it is being actively worked. Local LEOs still very strongly suspect that Casey killed her daughter, either through an active act of premeditated murder, or anger. A third possibility also exists that if she did not intend the child to die, Casey is at the least guilty of criminally negligent neglect or acts so outrageous (such as an intentional chloroforming that went bad) that she should have been convicted, at a minimum, for aggravated manslaughter.
It's a long shot, but if it can be shown that someone connected with Casey and/or her defense did bribe or otherwise improperly influence a witness, the case could be reopened. Although she was acquitted in state court, double jeopardy does not attach if she would be accused of depriving her daughter of her civil rights in the federal court system. That's what happened in the Rodney King case. The cops were acquitted of assault and related charges in the California state court (isn't everyone,) but then convicted in the federal courts of depriving King of the civil rights.
An even more interesting concept might be the state's possible ability to retry Casey on murder/manslaughter charges. Although it is rarely invoked, there is a concept under the law that Casey Anthony is certainly entitled to a fair trial, but so are the People of the State of Florida. If it can be shown that the People of the State of Florida did not get a fair trial due to bribed witnesses or the like, there are operations of law that would allow Ms. Anthony be retried. It would be rare and the misconduct by the defense would certainly have to be egregious, but it is a possibility. With the anger now circulating in the local law enforcement community, it is certainly not an impossibility.
History is shown there is probably only about a 10% chance that anything in this will ever pan out, but it is certainly something that a number of newsies are watching very closely. We'll let you know when we hear more
Usually the same lawyers don’t try civil and criminal.
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights
This gets me an indictment, at least. It does NOT require operation under the color of law.
“This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.”
He VOLUNTEERED to lead searches. He can not now, regardless of reasoning, expect to be paid for voluntary services.
Understand. I think she did it. She probably was at least involved in her child's death, if not directly responsible for the death. That being said, any additional action against her smacks of harassment and those involved are playing a very dangerous game considering that they have a great deal more to lose than Casey Anthony.
She is broke, with very few prospects. It might be speculated that she will be getting her own reality show or book deal, but that is not as likely as people think. She is universally loathed, not hated, loathed, selling anything associated with her would be risky at best. Remember O.J. tried to peddle a book as well and never made a dime off it.
That’s all fine, unless someone was paid or otherwise influenced to lie to that jury.
I disagree. I don’t think Tim Miller makes legal decisions like this without feeling confident he will win his suit against Ms. Anthony.
I just want this crap off my TV so they can start talking about real issues instead. This case has no real meaning, other than “another dead cute white girl”
I watched the entire trial. No brained 1st degree murder! That jury was pathetic!
If they had a case, which they do not, They could get very little time if convicted. Most of these lying offenses are less than a few months. Look at Martha Stewart. She spent five months in prison and five months on house arrest.
They could charge Ms Anthony for practicing medicine without a license. She performed a retroactive abortion on herself. Ironclad case.
Some questions I want to ask about this trial regards the allegation George Anthony and his son molested Casey. Does anyone know if there was any evidence it actually happened? Did Casey tell her lawyer about it or was it some ploy the defense team came up with to get sympathy for her? If her lawyers made it up, can they be punished for making such an allegation against someone?
Who is the second person that would be tried? I think she did it but I do not see a fed case.
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I was wondering if the Feds would charge Casey for making a false claim that her baby was kidnapped, since kidnapping is a Federal crime which brought the FBI into the case.
Also had heard that one juror hired a publicist before the trial began, but do not know if that is true.
The media has EVERYTHING to do with it. If that poor child looked like Lurch nobody would give a flying. Nancy Grace and her coven of harpies guaranteed no fair trial.
It’s done. Glad a conservative such as yourself has surrendered to emotion.
There was no proof it happened, and the jurors were told by the Judge that they were NOT to consider those charges, and Casey's attorney was not allowed to mention his molestation claims in his closing arguments because he gave no proof.
You are beating a dead horse. She is not guilty by law.
How exactly is it fair to constantly badger this woman. This is the exact reason why there are laws against double jeopardy and vigilantism.
Let it go.
The State did the best it could. It was a difficult case with no direct evidence.
A jury of 12 citizens pondered the evidence that they where presented and concluded that the state didn't meet the burden. It wasn't even close, they only took ten hours to acquit.
Continued action against this defendant would constitute nothing short of prosecutorial abuse and subject the state to civil action by the Defendant.
There is a reason why the state's burden is high, they failed to meet that burden in the eyes of the jury. Case closed.
It is over, as it should be.
According to the jury, the only people who have an opinion that counts, the state did not prove their case. That is a fact. If the state had proved it's case in the eyes of those who had an opinion that counted She would have been convicted of a crime greater than lying. She was not, ergo the state by fact of law did not prove their case.
I remind you that I have stated I believe that she was at least complicit in her daughters death. However, that is simply common sense, not proof. Proof, beyond a reasonable doubt is necessary for a conviction. They simply did not PROVE the case to the people who mattered the most.
My bet is on Roy Kronk’s son. I didn’t get a sense he was telling the truth - or that possibly he had his dates confused. Just something about him didn’t seem right.
River Cruz...not sure what to make of her lies. Was she lying in her original deposition when she said she didn’t have an affair with George, or on the stand when she said she did? She told Tony Pipitone she thought she could tell the story without having to admit she and George had an affair. I never did find out how the police found the “I need you in my life” text on her phone- obviously she must have saved it, so did she volunteer the text to LEO or to Baez first? Lots of questions around her credibility.
Frankly there is/was so much deception in this case on the part of so many involved it’s hard to see how it will ever be clarified, UNLESS the defense theory of George being in on it is true- (which seems unlikely for a number of reasons) and he comes forward and tells all. It would have required him to allow his daughter to sit in jail for three years facing capital murder charges, knowing what really happened and not stopping it. His behavior during the search for Caylee would be inexplicable. At some point while he’s demanding from Casey that she tell them what she knows- Casey would have turned on him and told him to own up to his part...nothing in letters or jailhouse phone calls shows any hint of collusion between them. ALSO- if he played a real part in it I think the defense team would have been investigating it carefully...and there’s no evidence or rumor they did so.
I wonder if anyone on the jury, in hindsight has considered there was no cause of death in the Scott Peterson case either. Barely any clues and a defendant who lied, lied, lied after the fact. Yet he sits on death row in California. He must wish he lived in Florida.
His time & resources where donated willingly and with no request from Anthony. He can not now attach a monetary value to voluntary time regardless of reasoning.
It is irrelevant anyway as Anthony is destitute and as of this point has no money and few or no prospects. Any judgment would easily be released in a filing for bankruptcy.
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