But everyone knows someone who is about to lose their home, job, family...it's a strange atmosphere, edgy I suppose. It's not safe. Plan ahead. Be safe. Be alert. ;D
Posted on 06/26/2011 4:49:51 PM PDT by verum ago
Hey all, I'm looking into getting an AR15, but am totally overwhelmed by all the choices. What I want is something that's reliable, and has a rifle length barrel. Cheaper is better. I am not looking into getting a crazy customizable hyper-accurate super gun. Just a plinker. I've seen the Olympic Arms plinker, looked kinda rough.
I’ve got a couple of AR’s, a few Garands, an SKS, several .22s, and have sold several FALs and L1A1s. Looking for an AK-74 now.
Do you mean AK47? While I am not a huge fan of the 7.62 x 39 round a good AK is hard to beat. Be warned that there are as many shoddy AK’s as there are so-so AR’s. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I can’t think of any instance where more than that kind of accuracy will be needed. I don’t need to be a sniper.
It be coming friend but I don’t get people who say they are prepping and the crud they buy, then say “all done”.
Others think they can run to the grocery store “real quick”.
I give then some real examples of what happens:
Rodney King
Katrina
Japan
They just shrug it off.
“I’ve noted and noticed that people are starting to do things and act strangely...”
You’re not alone, Daffy. Mrs. panax and I were talking about this very thing this afternoon. Everybody seems short-tempered, greedy, nervous and quick to launch insults.
IMO, I think most folks are scared of what the future is offering. We have no leadership and no confidence in our government whatsoever. Our GOP reps have all morphed into RINO’s and we have no qualified candidate to oust the zer0 in 2012.
Current events like the pharmacy killings, the rapidly increasing & violent flash-mobs, increased home invasions and daring daytime burglaries/robberies have forced us to carry everywhere we go.
It’s not being paranoid, it’s being smart and refusing to be a victim.
I highly agree with this.
I built an AR based on the info on ar15.com, saved at least a couple hundred dollars & I know my rifle.
My AR started with a Rock River LAR-15 stripped lower and finished it off with a M&A Parts kit - A4 flat-top w/flip-up rear sight, in a M-4 configuration. Chrome lined barrel, chambered in 5.56.
Building your own gets you what you want, whether it's fully dressed or just the base to start with.
I had never built a firearm before, only had to buy a couple tools in order to do it. Only took an hour or so to put it all together.
Thank you!
But everyone knows someone who is about to lose their home, job, family...it's a strange atmosphere, edgy I suppose. It's not safe. Plan ahead. Be safe. Be alert. ;D
I didn’t come close to anything like a rifleman but I enjoyed the weekend. I learned so much about shooting and my adopted country. I plan to go to another Appleseed and work toward my Rifleman patch. It’s a great way to spend the weekend with your family. There were several young children at our event and a few new Marines.
And that's just on FR!
Union, WV, Union Outfitters. For Under $700 you can have the Bulgarian, with all the bells and whistles like scope mount and scope, bayonet, extra mags (comes with two 30 rounders, IIRC), ammo. The rifle with two mags is $519 before atxes and backgrounder.
Boy you opened up a can a worms!
For your first AR, go down to the gun store and buy an M4 style carbine with a collapseable stock and removeable carryhandle so you can later put on a reddot or scope.
Barrel should be chrome lined, with a 5.56 chamber and a standard flash suppressor.
Bushmaster, Rock River Arms, S&W, Stagg, Colt, are generally available in most gun stores and super sporting goods stores. You really can’t go wrong with any of those, and they’ll have warrantys if you do.
You’ll end up with a civilian variant of rifle that most of our armed forces use, which means parts, ammo, and magazines will be available and easy to find for decades to come.
Magazines. I’ll just say Magpul PMAG. Get the Pmags. Doesn’t matter if you get the ones with the window or spend a couple bucks less and get the windowless. They work, and they are inexpensive.
Let us know what you do?
But if you want a SHTF gun forget what I said and get an M1A.
Yup. Even folks who previously had an issue with "having a gun in the house" are coming around. A lot of new folks are concealed carrying, legally or not.
I hope that it will not get worse, but I am planning for it to get much worse. I no longer worry much about thugs invading my community (I've moved to a VERY rural area) but my escape from work (in Baltimore, shudder) could get very exciting if the SHTF. From my office I can watch gangs of idle thugs hang out right across the street. I've already identified a back way out that avoids intersections and built up areas, but there is no normal way to get off the lot without driving right into a potential urban war zone. Basically, if the balloon ever goes up I am going cross-country into an adjacent lot and bug the heck out before anyone knows what is going on. Assuming I'm not trapped in our "secure" building.
Just so you know, a lot of those “hobbyist guns” are made by LMT using the same billets as the others. CNC machining ended a lot of the differences in rollmarks. I have an Olympic...upper and lower match up better than a Rock River, and LMT did the work. Finishes are where a lot of differences can occur.
With Bushmaster, Remington, DPMS and God knows who all else now falling under the aegis of Cerebus, I think some of the suppliers are the same. I've got an upper built by J&T Distributing. It's Cerro forge marked, as are many of the RR and Remington ARs I've seen.
Whatever you decide, get a couple of extra sets of springs, and maybe rollpins.
For pins and springs, even the sub-80% forging, I’d agree.
However, Bushy and Remington make/assembles their own uppers, because that is where all the work is done and that’s where the quality or lack thereof becomes apparent.
Interesting to see that Remington has taken the former Masada/MagPul ACR and made it their own. Given Remington’s work with the M24 weapons system, it might show quite favorably as a tactical rifle than it would under the Bushy lineup.
Maybe even a spare bolt.
I needed mine once, and it was very handy.
You can get a complete packaged set of “pins and springs” from almost any of the manufacturers, including Bushmaster.
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