Posted on 06/10/2011 8:23:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
The route had long been known as a lost Roman road... dig director Tim Malim noticed that the road had twice been rebuilt, and knew its history could be dated using a technique that tells you when buried mineral grains were last exposed to sunlight.
The unexpected result was a more than 80% chance that the last surface had been laid before the Roman invasion in AD43. Wood in the foundation was radiocarbon-dated to the second century BC, sealing the road's pre-Roman origin. And Malim thinks a huge post that stood in 1500BC close to the crest of the hill was a trackway marker...
...notwithstanding villas with central heating and public statues of Roman emperors, some academics portray the... occupation as a mere ripple on the longer and stronger flow of native culture and politics... Could Britain have been more "Roman" than was thought... Britons were more aware of Rome than Rome was of Britain... in a cemetery near Colchester, Essex, excavated mostly in the 1990s... members of the ruling class who had died between about AD40 and AD60... the things the deceased took with them... precious Roman objects requiring Roman expertise... there is "the doctor". This man had his wine jar, his imported pottery service and copper vessels. But he also had a set of surgical instruments -- one of the oldest known in the ancient world... scalpels, forceps, probes and more -- and comparable to finds made around the Roman empire.
But they are not Roman. On current evidence, they were made in Britain to designs that merely borrowed from Greece and Italy... Many things here once thought "Roman" could, in fact, be older. Shropshire's road, then, could be the start of a journey that changes the way we think about early Britain.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
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Chicks.
There should be a Tiny Antilles as well.
The English came in after the Romans left — actually before that — and that’s the reason the British civilization of the time went all to heck. But it wasn’t entirely that way, as at least two sites (one well inland) were linked by trade with the Byzantine Empire.
The Romans had no educational system, other than private tutoring (often by slaves) which led to an uneven level of literacy throughout the empire. In Ostia there’s a mostly intact restaurant from Roman times (not in operation of course; the waitresses would be pretty old, for one thing) and their popular offerings are depicted in mosaic, with no text.
I’m not sure they even had chocolate then. ;’)
Why that’s not true at all. I know all about Dominica. It is an island inhabited by monks of the Dominican order and no women are permitted on the island. You have to get there by going up cliffs using a basket pulled by ropes.
So there!
I agree.
The main problem the Romans had was internecine warfare. The Empire spent much of the third century engaged in civil wars between a patchwork of quasi-imperial pretender states. And it still endured. My favorite of the 3rd c emperors is Aurelian — had some crook on his staff not murdered him, he’d have been better remembered for the things he never got to do as a consequence (whatever those would have been).
During his five year reign he defeated (basically destroyed, in some cases) invading barbarians, reunified the empire, built the city wall around Rome, and abandoned Dacia which was n of the Danube, hard to defend, and probably well-stripped of wealth by his predecessors. The conquest of Dacia by Trajan during the 2nd c had marked the economic high point of the old empire, but those days were behind it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian
I thought there was a singing nun involved.
There’s an old African saying, “where you find a man, there you will find a road.” There’s probably a pretty old roadbuilding tradition, and as in all cultures, the quality of the roadways varied quite a bit. Obviously those big-assed rocks at Stonehenge didn’t get there without some kind of A) trackway and B) political cooperation or authority over a nice big swath.
Hi! That was a very interesting piece of information. I googled up Duden but was not able to find relevant information.
Can you point me to more information about this?
This is one of my hobbies, learning about standardization of old languages via “new” media.
For example, before Radio most Italians could barely understand each other. However when Radio chose the Florentine pronunciation, all of Italy slowly standardized to it.
Look at China, where now the Mandarin pronunciation rules are “killing” regional dialects
In India, the Bombay Bollywood Hindi has become the standardized Hindi
In our own United States, we have moved progressively towards a Mid-west accent, as our TV broadcasters have favored that accent
I am an “idiot from Texas” :)
Well, you guys might have had the capital of the Old South, but we still have ALL of our pre civil war territory!
...and also, we elect Republicans unlike you folks who are “liberal” now...
...so there with the hornet’s nest
I never liked them dan liberals in WVA, anyway.
That’s because you got fooled by pictures. All Dominican monks have those long side curls and spend most of their day rocking back and forth, praying for rain so they can make more champagne.
But it’s an easy mistake to make unless you are a Columbia trained historian like me.
What, that egghead Greek stuff?
Sunkus: "Hail Caesar!"
Hadrian: "You have a nice ass."
Sunkus: "Which I devote to the Republic of Rome!"
Hadrian: "Yeah, I gotta do something about that frickin' Senate."
Sunkus: "The Senate is as your moat to the mob, Caesar!"
Hadrian: "That's that democracy crap, right? Some bread and circus and they're happy."
Sunkus: "Long live the Empire!"
Obviously I would have to get up pretty early in the morning if I wanted to put something over on you.
(May not have that word-for-word but that was the gist.)
Very good my friend!
Thanks for the links. I am going to review them right now.
I assume from your posts that you speak High German. Where did you learn it? Are you an ethnic?
I learned German at home, at catholic school, and at Das Verteidigungsspracheninstitut - The Defense Langauge Institute in CA. Valedictorian, Class 0184 DLIPSF.
Plus I lived there a number of years.
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