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Princess sheds new light on early Celts
BBC ^ | May 1, 2011 | Stephen Evans

Posted on 05/02/2011 6:10:19 PM PDT by decimon

German experts are carefully taking apart a complete Celtic grave in the hope of finding out more about the Celts' way of life, 2,600 years ago, in their Danube heartland.

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We usually think of the Celtic heartland as the western edges of Europe - Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Brittany in France.

But Dr Krausse says the real Celtic heartland was actually in the region in the upper reaches of the Danube, from where the Celts could trade.

"Celtic art and Celtic culture have their origins in south-western Germany, eastern France and Switzerland and spread from there to other parts of Europe," said Dr Krausse.

They were then squeezed by the tribes from the north and the Romans from the south, so that today they remain only on the western edges of the continent.

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archaeology; celtics; germany; godsgravesglyphs; ireland
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Gold and amber jewellery found in the grave indicate the woman was of high rank
1 posted on 05/02/2011 6:10:21 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Respectfully yours ping.


2 posted on 05/02/2011 6:11:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Well, THIS is certainly an eye-opener. Thanks for posting!


3 posted on 05/02/2011 6:23:51 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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Looks like there are a lot of trinkets there. They made some beautiful trinkets so I hope some pictures come out.


4 posted on 05/02/2011 6:37:41 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Good post. Only the Germans are really, really simplifying things.

“Celtic art and Celtic culture have their origins in south-western Germany, eastern France and Switzerland and spread from there to other parts of Europe,” said Dr Krausse.”

The Celts were displaced 7,500 years ago when the isthmus between Europe and Asia was breached by the Mediterranean Sea.

The Old Euxine Lake flooded, causing a panicked and massive migration of people fleeing in all directions. The Old Euxine Lake became what the ancients called the New Euxine Sea, what we today refer to as the Black Sea.

Populations with Celtic DNA would later be found in what is today southwestern Turkey. The mummified remains of red-haired people in the central Asian deserts are probably Celtic in origin, if the Chinese would ever allow them to be tested. Eastern Europe is known for redheads, and the Po Valley of northern Italy was considered Celtic by the ancient Romans.


5 posted on 05/02/2011 6:40:32 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

I read a couple of years ago that testing has shown the average Englshman still has strong Celtic ties.

Apparently those Roman, Saxon etc. invaders did not come close to displacing the original inhabitants.

I always thought it interesting that Ramses the Great had red wavy hair. Also the King David is traditionally said to have been red headed.


6 posted on 05/02/2011 6:53:28 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: SatinDoll
Lots of red/yellow pigment began popping up all over Western Europe during and after the 30 Years War.

Then there was the total replacement of the Polish nobility by men from much further West.

The Celts themselves left records behind regarding their movement from the Danube and Black Sea regions to the Mediterranean and Spain.

7 posted on 05/02/2011 6:57:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv
Some more pics & story from Germany.

Celtic tomb hailed as great archaeological find

8 posted on 05/02/2011 6:58:09 PM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Thanks.

Kinda amazing that people so long ago could do such intricate metalwork.


9 posted on 05/02/2011 7:09:02 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Go bring up the Declaration of Arbroath and read it.


10 posted on 05/02/2011 7:10:15 PM PDT by crz
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To: yarddog
"I always thought it interesting that Ramses the Great had red wavy hair. Also the King David is traditionally said to have been red headed. "

Pharaoh Tutankhamun, Akhenaten and Amenhotep III were R1b

I am R1b and it is the most common yDNA in Europe. The most common mtDNA in Europe is 'H'.

11 posted on 05/02/2011 7:10:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: SatinDoll
The Boii are recorded to have settled in the Po Valley after an historic Roman event ~ when the noise made by the geese roused them to get up and protect themselves from the invading Celts. They drove them all the way back to Boulogne.

Different Celts though.

The group that came down the Danube and into the Black Sea on their way to about 300 years of life in/around/on the Mediterranean is the one that left behind this grave ~ albeit at a slightly later date than I would have imagined. They had already reorganized Northern Spain by that time and were well on their way to invading Ireland and Britain (taking with them native Basques).

12 posted on 05/02/2011 7:15:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: crz
Go bring up the Declaration of Arbroath and read it.

The Scawts? Wot's this to do wit the Scawts?

13 posted on 05/02/2011 7:15:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

The Scawts don’t arrive for another 1200 years ~ although the Scotians were already in Ireland (then Scota).


14 posted on 05/02/2011 7:24:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SatinDoll
Populations with Celtic DNA would later be found in what is today southwestern Turkey.

This is well known and attested historically. The Celts (Gauls) invaded Asia Minor around 270 BC, eventually settling in what became known as Galatia.

15 posted on 05/02/2011 7:43:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: decimon

                          early Celts
16 posted on 05/02/2011 7:45:35 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444

Then it’s true - people were shorter back then.


17 posted on 05/02/2011 7:51:12 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

And had less melanin.


18 posted on 05/02/2011 7:53:47 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Note to Obama: The only time you actually are the smartest person in the room is when you are alone.)
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To: decimon

The Greek name for the Celts was Galatoi. Some of them invaded Greece in the 3rd century BC and eventually settled in Asia Minor—in the region that got the name Galatia. Later the Romans enlarged the province of Galatia, so the Galatians St.Paul wrote to were not Celts but Greek-speakers. Apparently there were still some Celtic-speakers in Asia Minor much later.


19 posted on 05/02/2011 7:55:25 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The Celts from along the Danube appear to have made use of the services of Greek Scribes (sold to them by dealers in such persons). Consequently the earliest Celtic writings are actually in Greek.

That the practice persisted among the residual group left behind in Bulgaria, et al, who then invaded Anatolia in the third century BC really isn't surprising.

Now, whether or not they were "Greek Speakers" is a very good question because the Galations in Anatolia were still using names in their own local Gaullic languages in the 1100AD period.

I suspect the particular Galatians St. Paul communicated with were a tad different from the ones running around lose herding animals.

20 posted on 05/02/2011 8:06:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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