Posted on 05/02/2011 6:10:19 PM PDT by decimon
German experts are carefully taking apart a complete Celtic grave in the hope of finding out more about the Celts' way of life, 2,600 years ago, in their Danube heartland.
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We usually think of the Celtic heartland as the western edges of Europe - Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Brittany in France.
But Dr Krausse says the real Celtic heartland was actually in the region in the upper reaches of the Danube, from where the Celts could trade.
"Celtic art and Celtic culture have their origins in south-western Germany, eastern France and Switzerland and spread from there to other parts of Europe," said Dr Krausse.
They were then squeezed by the tribes from the north and the Romans from the south, so that today they remain only on the western edges of the continent.
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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Respectfully yours ping.
Well, THIS is certainly an eye-opener. Thanks for posting!
Looks like there are a lot of trinkets there. They made some beautiful trinkets so I hope some pictures come out.
Good post. Only the Germans are really, really simplifying things.
“Celtic art and Celtic culture have their origins in south-western Germany, eastern France and Switzerland and spread from there to other parts of Europe,” said Dr Krausse.”
The Celts were displaced 7,500 years ago when the isthmus between Europe and Asia was breached by the Mediterranean Sea.
The Old Euxine Lake flooded, causing a panicked and massive migration of people fleeing in all directions. The Old Euxine Lake became what the ancients called the New Euxine Sea, what we today refer to as the Black Sea.
Populations with Celtic DNA would later be found in what is today southwestern Turkey. The mummified remains of red-haired people in the central Asian deserts are probably Celtic in origin, if the Chinese would ever allow them to be tested. Eastern Europe is known for redheads, and the Po Valley of northern Italy was considered Celtic by the ancient Romans.
I read a couple of years ago that testing has shown the average Englshman still has strong Celtic ties.
Apparently those Roman, Saxon etc. invaders did not come close to displacing the original inhabitants.
I always thought it interesting that Ramses the Great had red wavy hair. Also the King David is traditionally said to have been red headed.
Then there was the total replacement of the Polish nobility by men from much further West.
The Celts themselves left records behind regarding their movement from the Danube and Black Sea regions to the Mediterranean and Spain.
Thanks.
Kinda amazing that people so long ago could do such intricate metalwork.
Go bring up the Declaration of Arbroath and read it.
Pharaoh Tutankhamun, Akhenaten and Amenhotep III were R1b
I am R1b and it is the most common yDNA in Europe. The most common mtDNA in Europe is 'H'.
Different Celts though.
The group that came down the Danube and into the Black Sea on their way to about 300 years of life in/around/on the Mediterranean is the one that left behind this grave ~ albeit at a slightly later date than I would have imagined. They had already reorganized Northern Spain by that time and were well on their way to invading Ireland and Britain (taking with them native Basques).
The Scawts? Wot's this to do wit the Scawts?
The Scawts don’t arrive for another 1200 years ~ although the Scotians were already in Ireland (then Scota).
This is well known and attested historically. The Celts (Gauls) invaded Asia Minor around 270 BC, eventually settling in what became known as Galatia.
Then it’s true - people were shorter back then.
And had less melanin.
The Greek name for the Celts was Galatoi. Some of them invaded Greece in the 3rd century BC and eventually settled in Asia Minor—in the region that got the name Galatia. Later the Romans enlarged the province of Galatia, so the Galatians St.Paul wrote to were not Celts but Greek-speakers. Apparently there were still some Celtic-speakers in Asia Minor much later.
That the practice persisted among the residual group left behind in Bulgaria, et al, who then invaded Anatolia in the third century BC really isn't surprising.
Now, whether or not they were "Greek Speakers" is a very good question because the Galations in Anatolia were still using names in their own local Gaullic languages in the 1100AD period.
I suspect the particular Galatians St. Paul communicated with were a tad different from the ones running around lose herding animals.
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