Posted on 03/03/2011 12:38:11 PM PST by decimon
I've read elsewhere what they expect to put together ~ that's about 35,000 during or nearly during Henry's reign. There are OTHERS of course.
Quite incendiary.
Elizabeth was no slouch when it came to state butchery. Sorry, I despise both of them. And if England had gone exstinct, it would not have been the end of the world.
It could have been physical, but I always thought it could have been pure mental also.
I’ve never known anyone to wake up from a coma without any change in their thought processes in some way or another. But it could have simply been the fear of God put in the man - at that time, a king had to be physically vigorous. It was still a time when kings fought on the battlefield.
He could have waken up, and said, geez, I’d better have a strong son or Spain is going to own my country.
My father had osteomyelitis most of his life. We were told that it began from a leg injury when he was a young boy. He lived to be 72, and worked for over 50 years for the New York Central Railroad. He never missed a day of work despite having a chronic abscess on the under-part of his upper arm that continually drained. My mother would clean the wound with peroxide every night, then replace the gauze bandage. The open wound would close from time to time, then would eventually fester and open again not far from the last drainage spot. I never heard him complain once about pain or discomfort though I'm sure there was some. He was a hard worker, a good husband and father, and he's dearly missed as much today as when he died 33 years ago.
“But it could have simply been the fear of God put in the man - at that time, a king had to be physically vigorous. It was still a time when kings fought on the battlefield.
He could have waken up, and said, geez, I’d better have a strong son or Spain is going to own my country.”
I think so too. Plus, the Tudor dynasty was the only one following the civil “Wars of the Roses” and it was etched into his memory as a kid. Then, go figure, Catherine of Aragon was barren and refused to let him divorce, which only intensified the actions he took to get married to someoen else.
Not with Henry, but she did have one child, a daughter named Mary, with her new husband Thomas Seymour. Catherine died six days later from the same disease that claimed Jane Seymour. Thomas Seymour executed not long after, and the child was shipped off to another household. It is believed she was dead by the time she was two.
No, there was no inbreeding. That came several centuries later.
She had only 2 pregnancies and one miscarriage.
This is very interesting to me. I am doing my geneology and found that Henry VIII is my 12th great-grand uncle. I am descended from Henry’s mother and one of her children of her first marriage to another man before she married King Edward, Henry’s father. She is my 13th great-grandmother.
The Cornish are English, like the Devonians, the Men of Kent etc.
Please don’t refer to them as if they were some backward tribe of aboriginals who Henry exterminated. That would be a bizarre mistake, a distortion of history with identity politics.
Cornish Lords rose up in rebellion on at least two occasions, seeking the help of other Englishmen to fight the King. Unfortunately they lost - and Henry carried out savage reprisals - but they weren’t some different race of people that the English somehow need to make reparations to.
Not all history is about race. Not all history needs to echo the identity preoccupations of the American Left
The Cornish are Celtic in origin ~ they are not Sassanach!
Henry VIII’s father was Henry VII, whose father was Edmund Tudor. Henry VII married Elizabeth, the daughter of King Edward IV.
The Cornish language was related to Welsh and to Breton (P-Celtic, unlike the Q-Celtic languages of Ireland, Man, and Scotland). It died out a couple of centuries ago but there are some people trying to revive it.
Uh-huh. Again with the instinctive identity-politics. Are you sure this is the right forum for you?
I lived in Cornwall for eight years. My parents met in Plymouth. The Cornish simply do not suffer from the insane identity hatreds that you would foist upon them.
Ping, for your interest.
No, Anne had a healthy child, then two miscarriages. That would be three pregnancies total.
Thanks! Fascinating!
In 2009 I went to London. At the Tower there was an *excellent* display about Henry. Almost all of his suits of armor, weapons, incredible amount of detail. You wouldn’t have wanted to mess with him hand to hand when he was in his 20’s or 30’s if you didn’t have to. The Brits know how to make their history interesting.
Yes I meant not with Henry...
Henry was old and sick and just liked to have a cheap full time nurse to change his stinky bandages on his feet...
When she did have a child with her next husband, she was suppose to have died in childbirth or not long after
but the rumour is she was poisoned right after the birth...
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