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Solving the puzzle of Henry VIII
Southern Methodist University ^ | March 3, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 03/03/2011 12:38:11 PM PST by decimon

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To: Eepsy

lol


21 posted on 03/03/2011 1:05:23 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: barbarianbabs

I loved the Tudors. I watched it every Sunday night on Showtime when it was new. My hubbie loved it too. It was like “Dallas” of the Middle Ages.

That was the only reason I subscribed to Showtime.

Great show even though it was not totally historically accurate it was just amazing. T


22 posted on 03/03/2011 1:06:00 PM PST by lone star annie
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To: decimon
Yikes he is my 1st cousin 16 times removed.
23 posted on 03/03/2011 1:06:14 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: chae
developed problems with the Rh factor.

Thank you, I couldn't, for the life of me, remember what it was called, but I had that with my two children. I received a shot after the first one which prevented any problems with the second.

24 posted on 03/03/2011 1:08:12 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: decimon; UriÂ’el-2012
And let's thank Uri’el-2012 for paying for it.

;)

Thank you, Uri’el-2012!

Hank and his wives (and mistresses) have always fascinated me. A Tudor trainwreck.

25 posted on 03/03/2011 1:09:20 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching. Class of 2011 Ike HS)
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To: muawiyah

I’m not too much into his history but how much inbreeding was going on then? Like the Tsar’s of Russia? Hemophilia in there perhaps?


26 posted on 03/03/2011 1:10:59 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Henry VIII was a miserable piece of work. It was only the capable rule by his daughter Elizabeth which spared England from extinction as a nation. That was exactly where they were headed when she was crowned. Henry's father, OTOH, controlled substantial holdings in France when he turned over the crown.

During Henry's reign, roughly 70,000 of his subjects were executed for various offenses, most of them petty. England's population at the time was a mere 2.5 million, meaning roughly 3% of its people died doing the Tyburn jig or the cold block chop.

27 posted on 03/03/2011 1:15:59 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ReverendJames
There were a couple of problems going on ~ in the 1500s Europe, in general, was still recovering from the Black Plague so populations were just a bit smaller than they had been even at the top.

However, these conditions are NOT autosomal recessives which have a better chance to express themselves in a smaller population where there are fewer marriage choices.

The other big thing was the French nobility, in general, made valiant, though not always successful efforts to marry no closer than four degrees of consanguinity away. This was pretty much the case with other ruling families.

There were also NEW HIRES (as we might call them) who married in. Christopher Columbus married a Braganza Princess (for example).

That's roughly like having Princess Ann of England marry a chauffeur.

28 posted on 03/03/2011 1:19:34 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: Vigilanteman
About 35,000 of those executions were of Cornishmen and women. They've been building a list on the internet ~ haven't looked at it in a good while but the idea is the English will not be allowed to forget who they killed.
29 posted on 03/03/2011 1:21:57 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: muawiyah
I'd appreciate a link if you could provide one.

(I take it you are no fan of this evil tyrant either.)

30 posted on 03/03/2011 1:25:05 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I think that I read somewhere that most historians are now saying he probably did not have syphillis. Coincidentally, the king of France while Henry was king of England did suffer from syphillis and they shared at least one mistress (Mary Boleyn Carey Stafford).
I’ve read every book that I can find that deals with the wives of Henry VIII, but I think my favorite wife has to be Anne Boleyn.


31 posted on 03/03/2011 1:28:18 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: decimon

Fascinating - thanks.


32 posted on 03/03/2011 1:30:20 PM PST by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
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To: decimon

Could blood group anomaly explain Tudor king’s reproductive problems and tyrannical behavior?
I don’t know about “blood group anomaly” but rampaging syphilis certainly could explain his behavior.


33 posted on 03/03/2011 1:31:32 PM PST by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I think it was Ruhesus Negative, producing one healthy and then no more healthy children. No matter how many times she got pregnant, Anne still continued to miscarry.


34 posted on 03/03/2011 1:32:07 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: muawiyah

Interesting read. Thanks!


35 posted on 03/03/2011 1:33:34 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: RedStateRocker

“Something happened; he went from vigorous, dashing and (relatively) sane and benevolent ruler to a deadly tyrant, supposedly in a short period of time.”

During the last year or so of his marriage with Anne, Henry got into a major accident at a joust that rendered him completely unconscious for hours on end, literally comatose. He woke up, got better, and then seemed to go on a rampage, killing his wife and members of her fmaily and friends. Add in the NEED for a son to succeed him and he then went off the rails.


36 posted on 03/03/2011 1:35:01 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: decimon
Old Henry probably gets a bad rap. We all hear about him when we are young and wonder how he could just dust off his wives as he did. But then we get married ourselves but don't have quite the same authority that Henry did.

People were executed all the time back then. The first guy to translate the Bible into English was executed in Belgium. It seems it was always best not to p*ss off the authorities.

ML/NJ

37 posted on 03/03/2011 1:37:19 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: DallasDeb

Likely. it could be that Henry VIII, like Kennedy visited brothels and slept with half the women there. Kennedy slept with Marilyn who slept with who knows who else.


38 posted on 03/03/2011 1:37:58 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: ml/nj
Old Henry probably gets a bad rap. We all hear about him when we are young and wonder how he could just dust off his wives as he did. But then we get married ourselves but don't have quite the same authority that Henry did.

Yeah, lack of authority. Bummer.

39 posted on 03/03/2011 1:40:02 PM PST by decimon
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The problem could not have been low sperm count. He impregnated women 13 times. The problem was that the babies died, most of them.


40 posted on 03/03/2011 1:51:57 PM PST by Houghton M.
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