Posted on 01/24/2011 10:44:15 AM PST by Frantzie
According to PhysOrg.com, two Italian scientists from the University of Bologna have taken on one of physics' historically most discredited concepts, cold fusion, and have actually succeeded in creating a sustainable reaction. Aside from the major implications of the energy market should this be validated and recreated (an issue that buried the original Cold Fusion discovery by Stanley Pons and Martin Fleishmann), one of the more economically important side effects of this purported rediscovery is that one of the byproducts of the reaction is none other than recently uber-bubbleicious copper.
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For the physically inclined - here’s some physics.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338
Interestingly, this is the only “journal” that carried the article, and the founder of this internet journal is Focardi, the “inventor” of the process.
So let’s say I’m skeptical.
PetroniusMaximus wrote:
If I had a nickel for every time this has been “discovered”...
you would have several nickels.
“Nobody could ever duplicate Pons’ and Fleishmann’s claims, as I recall.”
And as I recall, big labs with ultra pure ingredients could not, but small labs and individuals did.
The unintended trace elements appeared to be necessary to the reaction.
Problem was/is, since the process was/is not fully understood no one seems to have hit on the right ratio of trace elements, and which ones are necessary for a successful reaction.
Since the basic theory has been blasted as a hoax, there is no funding for the sort of tedious experimentation needed to determine the exact mix of major and trace chemistry required.
Hopefully (if it is real) some one is running the necessary test and will eventually be able to prove the process.
I hope they are a private party, and make a gazillion dollars on it.
Even if this were perfected this afternoon we would still need oil and oil products for a great many purposes.
“Have they received or applied for a Patent?
If not they are either fraudulent or criminally negligent with their intellectual property. “
If you read down the comments listed below the article, they HAVE applied for a patent.
It was PARTIALLY rejected.
Since they cannot fully explain the process, they have a problem with patenting it.
If some one figures out the missing equation, they will be able to steal the patent.
No. The price will come down gradually because you can't put nickel metal in a car's gas tank, but it will drop to a stable (lower) price and stay there because it'll still be in great demand as a raw material for synthesizing... well, pretty much any organic chemicals we use in bulk.
Cold fusion won't take away our demand for polyester, or asphalt, or butyl rubber, or Teflon, or fertilizers, or... well, you get the picture.
So does this mean the comeback of steam locomotives?
LOL! The oldest university in the world. One of the first university professors Dr. Antonio Zichichi president of the World Federation of Scientists who retired from U. of Bolgna and has published 800 papers was one of the first to come out and say global warming is total BS.
Contrast that with “universities” like Penn State and University of Virginia that were and STILL ARE pushing global warming.
The best medical doctor I have ever know trained there.
My guess is a good university in your small mind is one that has a quarterback who can run the option from an I formation plus has a good women’s studies program like most of the baby sitting U.S. universities today.
Another nice thing about Italy is they did not elect a muslim to destroy their country plus their leader NEVER had any stories about him being a possible homos*xual like TOTUS.
Its not the job of scientists to come up with uses for
new discoveries. Thats the job for marketing evangelists
and engineers.
Oil won’t be worthless, but it’s value will go down rapidly and it will be used to make lubricating oils, greases, LPG, and plastics. It will also take decades to transfer from oil based transportation to electricity based transportation. One of the biggest problems to be overcome is batteries that store large amounts of electricity and can be recharged quickly. Also you have to greatly increase the ability to transfer electrical power to make up for the increased draw on the grid.
Well - last winter the trains in the UK were snowed in. They used beautifully restored steam trains to open the lines up. Ditto in NW Canada.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8428097.stm
I will take steam trains over WIllie Green’s light rail and high speed trains paid for with Obama’s TARP slush fund.
P.S. Coal and natural gas will be obsolete almost immediately because both coal and natural gas are used mainly for electrical energy production.
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I suspect the Italian definition of “Women Studies” is quite a bit different from what it is here. :-)
The Navy did major research on this subject but I don’t think it was published. I would not be surprised if they were running a Sub on Cold Fusion somewhere.
It would make sense to go straight to steam. No thermodynamic losses of converting it from steam to electrical power and then back to mechanical energy.
Kind of easy to prove. You start with nickel, add hydrogen and wind up with copper as the reaction product. The only way to get ther is a fusion reaction.
You gotta bet that they have a veritable army of patent lawyers on this. Especially since they say that they expect to be selling 11KW commercial devices by the end of 2011.
My compliments to the chefs.
Excellent news for my palladium investments, which have almost trebled since I bought them...
Nickel-and-Dimed Yaun CON Fusion
While I like to think I am open minded about the possibility of finding such things...
the idea that a *chemical* reaction (occurring, by definition, among the electrons of the participating atoms/molecules) can overcome the *binding force* energies implicit in nuclear reactions...is astronomically far fetched.
It would be like saying that the grass growing under a baseball outfielder’s feet can, under the proper circumstances, smack the ball farther than the seasoned ash of a bat in the hands of a pro player.
It would be like saying that a nickel found on the sidewalk can have more influence than $160 billion of synthetic money launched into the economy by the Bernank.
It would be like saying that someone taking a leak off the bow of an ocean liner under forward power can stop and reverse the motion of the ocean liner.
The ratios of the energies involved are so many orders of magnitude removed from each other that it’s painfully implausible for the small one to overcome the big one.
But I won’t criticize it from the standpoint of “all these things are goofball frauds” because one day, somebody may well find some holy grail of the reactive universe. But you can know my take on the odds.
No one ever expected a Muslim to be in the white hut 7 years after 9/11 destroying America but the mindless and drooling public is easily manipulated by ALL of TV in the USA.
The Italians are smart enough not to elect a muslim to run and destroy their country. U of Bologna was one of the first to come out and say GW was total BS while “prestigious” American universities still flog the lie.
I think I will take 923 year old University of Bologna over the scum Harvard and Yale have produced. Add Moochelle’s Princeton alma mater to the list.
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