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Blackbeard's Sword?
National Geographic Society ^ | January 12, 2011 | Willie Drye

Posted on 01/17/2011 3:51:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Could this partly gilded hilt have held Blackbeard's sword? There's no way to know for sure, though it was found amid the North Carolina wreck of the Queen Anne's Revenge, the flagship of the infamous 18th-century pirate... After running aground on a sandbar in 1718 near the town of Beaufort, the ship was abandoned but likely remained intact and partly above water for as long as a year before collapsing and disintegrating... The newfound hilt may have been left behind because it was unwanted, or it may have been inaccessible, according to Moore's colleague Wendy Welsh, a conservator on the project. Blackbeard's brief career as a pirate lasted only about two years, but during that time he became one of history's most feared outlaws.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: blackbeard; edwardteach; edwardthatch; godsgravesglyphs; pirate; queenannesrevenge
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To: SkyPilot

Looks like he went for Martinis.


21 posted on 01/17/2011 4:38:37 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Although his main claims to fame are Anne Bonney and Mary Reade, I like Calico Jack Rackham’s flag, the one they used in “Pirates” as the flag of the Black Pearl.


22 posted on 01/17/2011 4:39:05 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Ramius; centurion316; SkyPilot
Why do you say that?

A fighting cutlass/sword/rapier would have more protection for the hand and an ergonomic grip less likely to slip in a wet/sweaty hand .

Yes, someone as flamboyant as a Blackbeard would want a gilded cutlass but as a fighting man, he would first want his weapon to be practical. That stag handled sword is not what a fighting man of the era would have worn in battle.

23 posted on 01/17/2011 4:42:40 PM PST by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv

IIRC....Supposedly, Blackbeard removed the booty and sunk that ship. Maybe the sward was part of the booty that got left behind.


24 posted on 01/17/2011 4:42:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: fso301

Commonly, yes. But not always. Bone, stag horn, ivory and other materials were often used for grips. Also, some hilts used a loop of chain instead of a solid basket. This one appears to have used a loop of chain.


25 posted on 01/17/2011 4:58:09 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SunkenCiv

I want one of those. ARRrrr.


26 posted on 01/17/2011 5:06:26 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Ramius
Commonly, yes. But not always. Bone, stag horn, ivory and other materials were often used for grips.

True but fighting grips or decorative grips?

Also, some hilts used a loop of chain instead of a solid basket. This one appears to have used a loop of chain.

Might the eye have been for a decorative tassel?

27 posted on 01/17/2011 5:26:36 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Stag makes a very good functional and ergonomic handle even today when compared with modern materials.

The little nubs give a good grip in wet conditions and the sweep of the antler fits the hand. Stag antlers are right and left-handed depending on the side they come off the deer, BTW.


28 posted on 01/17/2011 5:46:46 PM PST by 5by5
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To: fso301
True but fighting grips or decorative grips?

I would submit that "decorative" or "display" swords are much more a modern artifact than they were in centuries past. Back then, there was precious little difference. Sure, people hung swords on the wall in the 17th century, but they were still the real thing.

Might the eye have been for a decorative tassel?

Lots of things are possible, but tassels would typically have connected at the pommel, nomatter what sort of hilt the sword had.

A chain guard would look like this:

Another one here, but they won't hotlink: http://landandseacollection.com/id645.html

Keep in mind that the basket hilt (or chain hilt) was not just for protection of the hand-- in fact that would've often been a more secondary purpose. The hilt (and pommel) was used for punching and striking an opponent. Like brass knuckles. You wouldn't intentionally try to parry with the hand guard. Most parrying with a cutlass would've been done either with the flat of the blade-- or better yet-- a dagger, belaying pin, or buckler in the other hand.

29 posted on 01/17/2011 6:06:10 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Or, maybe he was planning to make a booty call, but the law caught up to him before he got back.


30 posted on 01/17/2011 6:29:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Ye call that a sword? Now *this* be a sword!"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

31 posted on 01/17/2011 6:33:06 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Chode

An old Zap Comix aficionado salutes Cap’n Pissgums.


32 posted on 01/17/2011 6:41:25 PM PST by Pelham (Obammunism, the smooth-talking happy -face communist blend.)
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To: La Lydia

Shiver me timbers.


33 posted on 01/17/2011 7:05:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Ramius

Thanks Ramius.


34 posted on 01/17/2011 7:09:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Ramius
Sword ping!

I'd like to do a metallurgical analysis of some of the uncorroded steel to see if it was weapon's grade or bling grade.

35 posted on 01/17/2011 7:35:57 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Ramius; 5by5
I would submit that "decorative" or "display" swords are much more a modern artifact than they were in centuries past. Back then, there was precious little difference. Sure, people hung swords on the wall in the 17th century, but they were still the real thing.

Perhaps I should have used the term trophy sword taken as booty. It came from Blackbeard's ship and may have been Blackbeard's but I suspect it wasn't his primary boarding cutlass.

Of course, these are things we'll never know with certainty.

36 posted on 01/17/2011 7:49:51 PM PST by fso301
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To: Pelham
Pathos on the High Seas, below decks...
37 posted on 01/17/2011 8:21:17 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: fso301

There’s no way to know if this was Blackbeard’s personal weapon or not. Most likely not. But... it’s a nice piece.


38 posted on 01/17/2011 9:55:30 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: 300winmag
I'd like to do a metallurgical analysis of some of the uncorroded steel to see if it was weapon's grade or bling grade.

So would I.

39 posted on 01/17/2011 9:59:45 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: fso301

true, that.


40 posted on 01/17/2011 10:01:35 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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