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New information on the battle that put Edward IV on the throne.
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Yep,, its the one you don't see that gets you.......
This article is a very interesting and very graphic discription of warfare some 500 years ago.
The bill - English version of Halberd was vicious weapon
Able to cut man in two with a single blow....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_(weapon)
Interesting bit of history, thanks for posting it.
[Minstrel]singing] Bravely bold Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot. He was not afraid to die, oh brave Sir Robin. He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways, brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin. He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp, or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken. To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away, and his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin. His head smashed in and heart cut out, and his liver removed, and his bowels unplugged, and his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off and his penis...
Sir Robin: That’s, uh, that’s enough music for now, lads... looks like there’s dirty work afoot.
Really interesting article. Thanks for posting.
First the comments at the srticle:
uncle clive Dec 24th 2010, 20:12
‘The average medieval man stood 1.71 metres tall—just four centimetres shorter than a modern Englishman. “It is only in the Victorian era that people started to get very stunted”. Their health was generally good. Dietary isotopes from their knee-bones show that they ate pretty healthily.’
The 1460’s was when the wool trade was at its peak...to drag in some boring economic stuff. England and Burgundy (Belgium) colluded to cut out France. A sack of best English wool fetched ten pounds... a sack of Spanish wool two shillings.
There was more cleared land than was needed to feed the population... thanks to the Black death.
There were a hundred saints’ days and holy days in addition to Sundays... the four day work week was the norm.
Zero taxation of course: The king lived of his own. The aristocracy played at politics.
The standard of living for ordinary folk was at its peak: in terms of shelter, food and fuel. It was not to be reached again until after the first world war.
One anecdote should suffice...At the monastery of Holy Cross outside Winchester, any tradesman or merchant on his travels could drop in for a free meal...roast lamb without potatoes... There’s the downside!... which was presented to the wayfarer on a silver platter... He provided his own knife of course... And afterwards he could walk off with the platter. Saved on the washing up!
That should give some idea of the relative wealth of England in the mid fifteenth century... before the great squeeze set in... when the Hapsburgs got control of Burgundy and Spain and cut England out of the action... and the Reformation eliminated most holidays... and the new gentry landlord class, that supplanted the monasteries and the aristocracy, set about raising the rents. But I digress.
Mutilation and dismemberment are all very fine, but economics can be jolly interesting too.
I know the thread is from 2010, but a FRiend and I found some videos today on YT related to the battle:
The Battle of Towton 1461 DVD Trailer (1:02 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkSufKwQWIY
The Towton Graves - War of The Roses (14:07 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gcvq7Vk90
Secrets Of The Dead - Blood Red Roses (51:06 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOUXxh4XliI
I guess none of this damage could have happened in the last 665 years, or even right after death.lol