Posted on 11/21/2010 3:32:32 PM PST by JoeProBono
According to an Islam tradition, Muslim martyrs will go to paradise and marry 72 black-eyed virgins. But some Koran scholars point to a less sexy paradise. While beautifully written, Islamic texts are often obscure. The Arabic language was born as a written language with the Koran, and growing evidence suggests that many of the words were Syriac or Aramaic.
Specifically, the Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get hur, and the word was taken by early commentators to mean virgins, hence those 72 concubines. But in Aramaic, hur actually meant white and was commonly used to specifically mean white grapes.
The exact number of virgins (or raisins) is not specified in Koran, but the number 72 comes from a quotation of Muhammad recorded in one of the lesser-known Hadith. ("Hadith" is an Arabic word meaning traditions.) After Muhammad's death, several collections of his deeds and sayings were collected to form the Hadith, which is the second most authoritative document is Islam, after the Koran.
The philologist "Christoph Luxenburg", (who always uses a pseudonym for security reasons) notes that grapes would actually make more sense, because the text compares them to crystal and pearls, and because contemporary accounts have paradise abounding with fruit, especially white grapes....
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Virgins? I thought it was Virginians!
gin soaked raisins for all!
Terayza
The sultana (also called the sultanina) is a type of white, seedless grape of Turkish, Greek, South African or Iranian origin.
I wonder if the other 70 look just like these.
Wow, they look like raisins!
I think that most of the Jews were slaves back then.
That would be a huge letdown. I would feel very cheated if I blew myself up and found out my reward was 72 raisins. I don’t even like raisins.
Thanks to Jim Quinn for the smart assed commentary.
“Does this give a whole new meaning to sour grapes?”
The Grapes of Wrath?
or
The Wrath of Grapes?
“Heavenly” beatings.
Judaism had spread far beyond Israel ~ there were even Jewish missionaries in India working the same crowds as early Christian missionaries (or the same missionaries were spreading both faiths).
I went to school in 50’s & 60’s and it was always my understanding that Islam was based on both Christian and Jewish writings. I don’t remember any sources but apparently it was the accepted opinion.
Anybody else?
Oh please, not this nonsense again.
Who do they think they are going to fool with this crap?
Perhaps Satan will give them the option of getting 72 craisins instead of raisins as a parting gift for doing so much work for him on Earth before they get into the hand-basket for their ride to Hell.
I think the punishment for some of the radical suicide bombers and other hate-preaching Muslims when they arrive in Hell after eating their 72 raisins should be that they will be treated in the same manner that they wanted Jews, Christians and women to be treated on Earth, only magnified a few hundred times.
When the raisins run out, they get to eat live BLT sandwiches with moldy bread.
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