Posted on 11/12/2010 4:53:42 PM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer
I need some help on this. I was reading where Bobby Jindal was born to immigrants here on visas. If he was born in Baton Rouge before they became naturalized citizens, wouldn't that make him ineligible to become President? I am in a heated argument at another website over this and I need answers to this controversy. Any help would be appreciated.
R.I.O.
He should=He shouldn’t
That is unless you happen to worship at the feet of a few vulgar comedians who believe in NOTHING and hold their insulting little rallies!!! Not God, not country... not even decency means anything to the two that did it, and especially to that dim bulb that snuck into the US Senate!!!
Ten thousand comedians are out of work and so now a few are trying their hand at some pretty sickening political tactics.
“Born here makes him a citizen, but not a natural born citizen if his parents were not citizens at his birth.”
There is no such thing as a born citizen who is not a “natural born citizen.”
uhhhh. No one is saying he’s not an American citizen.
Running for PRESIDENT goes far and above being a citizen. He must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN which has stricter requirements than just being a citizen.
You do know all that already, right???
To hold him to the same standard we are demanding
of Obama, both parents would have to be US citizens
at the time of his birth AND he must be born on
US soil. I respect Jindal, but the requirements are
clear. At least we have a clue about Jindal’s
details. Much more than we have for Obama.
Obama doesn’t meet the requirements by any
measure, yet the spineless elements of our
government empowered with the responsibility
to vet him failed.
“How can he be a natural born citizen when he was born to parents who weren’t naturalized yet?”
Because he was born on U.S. soil to parents who were there “under the jurisdicion” of U.S. law. Keep up.
“What part of All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States don’t you get? “
And what part of CITIZEN vs. NATURAL BORN CITIZEN don’t YOU get??
Honestly, who cares? There is no way that a yokel-sounding Indian from Louisiana is going to be elected president, period. Regardless of his politics, he won’t sell.
He isn’t eligible, that said, he isn’t running anyway.
Of course, that pesky little Constitution has been ignored all the time anymore.
Yes, there is. Do some research. There is a big difference.
That isn't what "under the jurisdiction" means.
Interesting story.
You had every personal reason not to come up with the correct Constitutional answer on this, yet you still came up with the right answer.
Jindal is not eligible.
Regards.
Within the U.S. it is by birth as opposed to be being born overseas where the parent are American. The Constitution itself does not define what is a Natural Born Citizen.
The arguements I am seeing here relate to the Dred Scott v. Sandford case which was nullifed by the 14th Amendment.
Man I do miss Congressmanbillybob.
“Since the US Constitution refers to the ‘Law of Nations’”
No, it does not. It refers to “the law of nations,” an ancient concept which is in no way limited by Vattel’s book, yes. But that phrase meant no more than “international law” means to us. If someone had years ago written a book called “International Law,” you certainly wouldn’t be under any compulsion to assume that’s what was being cited whenever the phrase popped up in current law. Which undoubtedly it often does. Because, like “the law of nations,” it’s a catch-phrase.
I have no idea what you are talking about. You comment makes no sense. Citizens who were “born citizens”? What does that mean? The question was: if he was born on US soil to non-citizen parents, is he eligible to be president. People who are not born on US soil are not eligible to be president, with very narrow exceptions, such as was the case of John McCain. The “citizens who are not eligible to be President because they were not born on US soil” to which I refer are naturalized citizens, such as Arnold S., who is not eligible to run for the presidency. He is a citizen, but he was not born on US soil. People who are born on US soil are 1) citizens and 2) eligible to run. Jindal meets the criteria.
“He is native born but not natural born”
No such category exists.
Please put down the crack pipe.
Vattel is a foreigner, and statements by foreigners should have no legal standing in US law.
“Offenses against the Law of Nations” refers to only piracy and has NOTHING to do with this matter. Under your interpretation, we’d be subject to UN law based on that! That’s nuts and contrary to our Constitution. We do NOT live under foreign law.
The 14th amendment is clear. Jindhal is citizen at birth, ie, a natural-born citizen, and therefore eligible to be President.
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