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1 posted on 08/05/2010 12:30:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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yes, and its where all of our tax dollars end up...sorry, I couldn’t help myself. pls forgive.


2 posted on 08/05/2010 12:35:05 PM PDT by MissyMack66
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Obama’s bunghole?


3 posted on 08/05/2010 12:36:27 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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A supermassive object that rips apart everything close to it and is infinitely dense. Wow.

(I am refering to Michael Moore, but that black hole is pretty incredible as well.)


5 posted on 08/05/2010 12:42:22 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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Dark energy, which has yet to be verified, can be seen as the opposite of gravity. While gravity pulls matter together, dark energy is what is causing the universe to expand, and at an ever-increasing rate.

The big bang idea was never based on anything better than the idea of an expanding universe which itself was never based on anything better than a misunderstanding of cosmic redshift. In real life, the universe is not expanding, and there never was a big bang.

http://cosmologystatement.org/

http://www.haltonarp.com/

http://www.electric-cosmos.org/arp.htm

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/cosmology/halton-arp-seeing-red-errors-big-bang.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp

http://bigbangneverhappened.org/

That's the scientific view of the thing. Nonetheless a rational person shouldn't even need science to reject the big bang idea; it should have been rejected on philosophical first principles on day one. Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the mother of all black holes. How in hell is anything supposed to "bang" its way out of that?

Moreover, how is this supposed to have happened at a finite point in time 17B years ago? The expanse of time prior to that would be infinite...

Likewise, there is a question of yuppies claiming that "There wasn't any time before the big bang"... That's basically idiotic. Does that mean that my Japanese Timex watch wouldn't work before the "Big Bang(TM)"?? I mean, the thing came with a guarantee...

Likewise I hear Christian yuppies claiming that they like the big bang idea because it amounts to a creation story of sorts, and must somehow or other be compatible with the creation story of Genesis.

It isn't. Big Bang is bad physics and bad theology rolled into a package. I don't picture a supposedly omniscient and omnipotent God all of a sudden deciding that creating a universe would be a cool thing to do while the idea had never occurred to him previously, and whether that is supposed to have happened 6K or 17B years ago doesn't matter. The evidence indicates that the universe, like God, is eternal, and that the creation stories we read refer to the creation of our living world, as per Genesis, something like 6K - 10K years ago. The Earth viewed as a collection of rocks is older than that.

The other part of the thing which is junk science is the idea of black holes based on gravity, which is by many orders of magnitude the weakest force in nature. Merely asking gravity to hold our sun and Alpha Centauri together is like asking gravity to hold two microscopic dust motes together from four miles distance; how in hell is this same weakest force supposed to collapse whole major cosmic objects into black holes??

6 posted on 08/05/2010 12:43:32 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Hey, it’s all an accident anyway.


7 posted on 08/05/2010 12:48:07 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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We are the inhabitants of Camazotz and the forces of darkness are growing.


9 posted on 08/05/2010 12:55:29 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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at the center of the void, approximately 5 billion years ago, was a small planet, that had been overtaken by ‘progressives’... the rest is cosmological history


10 posted on 08/05/2010 12:56:33 PM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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With all of the problems here on Earth, it is amazing that we can spend so many public dollars on stuff like this. WHO THE HECK CARES?????
13 posted on 08/05/2010 1:05:00 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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How can discovering nothing become something?


14 posted on 08/05/2010 1:05:49 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Well, anyway, the Big Bang is now ancient history.


15 posted on 08/05/2010 1:07:52 PM PDT by AU72
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“Does a MegaMassive Black Hole One-Billion Light Years Across Exist”?

Yep... but is only became MEGAMassive after it ate a massive White Hole.

LLS


16 posted on 08/05/2010 1:08:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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"When the radiation from the Big Bang passed through this void in the universe"

It is stated that the void is a big black hole and yet radiation passes through it! That seems like an entirely new theory of something.

19 posted on 08/05/2010 1:14:46 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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As the whole Universe is expanding faster than the speed of light (space not being matter, it can do that), any light inside the universe cannot escape the edge.

Therefore, the whole Universe is a Black Hole.

What is so special about a 2 billion LY one?


28 posted on 08/05/2010 2:07:33 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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God, in the beginning created the heavens and the earth, and the earth BECAME without form and void. There is time between the two events. How much time? We don’t know and it doesn’t matter. He will tell us all about it someday, maybe soon.


29 posted on 08/05/2010 2:09:49 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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I took this last night.

32 posted on 08/05/2010 2:27:47 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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How big is a black hole?
The more massive a black hole is, the more space it takes up. In fact, the Schwarzschild radius (which means the radius of the horizon) and the mass are directly proportional to one another: if one black hole weighs ten times as much as another, its radius is ten times as large. A black hole with a mass equal to that of the Sun would have a radius of 3 kilometers. So a typical 10-solar-mass black hole would have a radius of 30 kilometers, and a million-solar-mass black hole at the center of a galaxy would have a radius of 3 million kilometers. Three million kilometers may sound like a lot, but it's actually not so big by astronomical standards. The Sun, for example, has a radius of about 700,000 kilometers, and so that supermassive black hole has a radius only about four times bigger than the Sun.
Using this formula, a black hole with a billion-light-year radius would have a radius of about 10 million trillion kilometers (9.45e18km) and have a mass of 3 million trillion suns (3.15e18).

Pardon me if I'm skeptical of these numbers.

I think they should wipe the smudge of the lens of their telescope.

43 posted on 08/06/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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