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Archaeologists Uncover 'Bulgarian Machu Picchu'
Novinite ^ | Wednesday, July 21, 2010 | unattributed

Posted on 07/22/2010 6:58:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Bulgarian archaeologists have uncovered a unique residence of the rulers of the Odrysian Kingdom, the state of the most powerful tribe of Ancient Thrace.

The residence is located on the Kozi Gramadi mount in the Sredna Gora mountain, close to the resort town of Hissar in central Bulgaria, at about 1 200 m above sea level...

The construction of the residence near Hissar is believed to have been started by the Thracian ruler Cotys I (384 BC - 359 BC).

The team led by Dr. Hristov has uncovered the remains of the palace of the Odrysian kings Amatokos II (359 BC - 351 BC) and Teres II (351 BC - 342 BC).

The latter is the last Thracian king who fought Philip II of Macedon (359 BC - 336 BC)...

The fortress-residence of the Thracian kings is located on a plot of 4 decares, not far from the village of Starosel, which is the site of the largest tombs of Ancient Thracian rulers.

The researchers believe that the connection between the newly-uncovered fortress and the Starosel tombs is clear...

The archaeologists' guess is that the treasure of the Odrysian kingdom was also located in the newly uncovered residence but Philip II of Macedon most likely stole the gold kept there.

The Odrysian Kingdom was a union of Thracian tribes that existed between 5th and the 3rd century BC. The last Thracian states were conquered by Romans in 46 AD. The most famous Thracian in human history is Spartacus, the man who led a rebellion of gladiators against Rome in 73-71 BC.

(Excerpt) Read more at novinite.com ...


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The Odrysian kings' residence-fortress is made up of terraced structures leading archaeologists to call it the Bulgarian Machu Picchu. Photo by BNT

The Odrysian kings residence-fortress is made up of terraced structures leading archaeologists to call it the Bulgarian Machu Picchu. Photo by BNT

1 posted on 07/22/2010 6:58:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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If Machu Picchu had an outhouse, it might look like something in this picture. Just a little joke. That phony with his fake pyramid is screwing up archaeology in the Balkans.

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2 posted on 07/22/2010 7:00:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

*bump* cool.


3 posted on 07/22/2010 7:02:53 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SunkenCiv

Lol. What’s Bosnian for Zahi Hawass.


4 posted on 07/22/2010 7:06:03 PM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: Palter

LOL nice one.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 7:14:16 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: SunkenCiv
"The archaeologists' guess is that the treasure of the Odrysian kingdom was also located in the newly uncovered residence but Philip II of Macedon most likely stole the gold kept there." .

Watch Greece declare war to Bulgaria over this :)

6 posted on 07/22/2010 7:22:25 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: SunkenCiv

WOW! Thanks, ‘Civ.


7 posted on 07/22/2010 7:35:33 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Liberty Valance

It is actually pretty nice, and again, maybe a little amazing when something is found that is in such good shape — seems as if it should have continued in use for a long while.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 7:40:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Palter

:’)


9 posted on 07/22/2010 7:41:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: mainsail that

If Phillip II of Macedon had been born around 1950, he’d have ended up in ZZ Top. Okay, maybe not.


10 posted on 07/22/2010 7:43:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: PGalt

My pleasure!


11 posted on 07/22/2010 7:43:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


12 posted on 07/22/2010 7:45:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (..Liberalism is Intolerance..- - Freeper Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: SunkenCiv

My sentiments also; Machu Pichu and this place shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath.


13 posted on 07/22/2010 7:50:49 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Palter

Bosnian?


14 posted on 07/22/2010 7:53:32 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: wendy1946

From the article...
The Bulgarian archaeologists call the Thracian fortress “the Bulgarian Machu Picchu” because of the similarities in the organization of the two ancient cities.
They are talking of the fortress, not the room shown in the picture.


15 posted on 07/22/2010 8:00:25 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: SunkenCiv
For those of you interested in the archaeology of the human mind, I suggest you take a look at Julian Jaynes' "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind."

I have been reading it (and rereading it) for the last 3 months (almost 4 now).

Jaynes, a Princeton psychologist, posits that there is an evolution in the human mind...one in which early man (before 3,000 years ago) was not conscious at all and in fact had a bicameral brain such that the non-dominant hemisphere was completely devoted to vocal transmissions from the "gods."

I have still not finished the book but Jaynes has yet to define who these "gods" are.

That said, he does base his theory on meticulous research (based on ancient human literature like the Iliad, the Odyssey, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Bible and the mountain of archaeological evidence).

In the end, he suggests that over that vast span of time from 3,000 BC and before TO the present, the human mind has evolved from hearing and acting upon hallucinated voices to acting upon its own empirical reasoning. And this has occurred not without a deep longing for that earlier time when authorization came from hallucinated voices.

The transition was possibly from a time of direct communication (such as in the Garden of Eden) to hallucinations with the gods in the Iliad to the development of human consciousness. During that evolution, there were shifts that included the prophets, the oracles, possession (demonic and otherwise) and, in our contemporary world, schizophrenic voices.

Jaynes most creatively posits that a major part of what Jesus/Yeshua accomplished (aside from our salvation) was a rebirth of the bicameral voices--this time the voice of the Holy Spirit.

This premise would complete the circle.

In Eden, the Fall of Man meant the loss of direct communication with the Creator...but, with our Salvation, such contact was reestablished via the bicameral reception of the voice of God via the HS.

Here are some of the reviews of this book (from JulianJaynesSociety.com)...

"This book and this man's ideas may be the most influential, not to say controversial, of the second half of the twentieth century. I cannot recommend the book emphatically enough. I have never reviewed a book for which I had more enthusiasm. . . . It renders whole shelves of books obsolete." − William Harrington, in The Columbus Dispatch

"[Jaynes] has one of the clearest and most perspicuous defenses of the top-down approach [to consciousness] that I have ever come across." − Daniel Dennett, Ph.D., Professor of Philosophy, Tufts University, in Brainchildren

"The weight of original thought in it is so great that it makes me uneasy for the author's well-being: the human mind is not built to support such a burden." − David C. Stove, Ph.D. (1927-1994), Professor of Philosophy, University of Sydney

"Julian Jaynes's theories for the nature of self-awareness, introspection, and consciousness have replaced the assumption of their almost ethereal uniqueness with explanations that could initiate the next change in paradigm for human thought." − Michael A. Persinger, Ph.D., Professor of Behavioral Neuroscience, Laurentian University, in Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness

"Having just finished The Origin of Consciousness, I myself feel something like Keats' Cortez staring at the Pacific, or at least like the early reviewers of Darwin or Freud. I'm not quite sure what to make of this new territory; but its expanse lies before me and I am startled by its power." − Edward Profitt, in Commonweal

"Neuroimaging techniques of today have illuminated and confirmed the importance of Jaynes' hypothesis." − Robert Olin, M.D., Ph.D., Professor Emeritus in Preventive Medicine, in Lancet

"The bold hypothesis of the bicameral mind is an intellectual shock to the reader, but whether or not he ultimately accepts it he is forced to entertain it as a possibility. Even if he marshals arguments against it he has to think about matters he has never thought of before, or, if he has thought of them, he must think about them in contexts and relationships that are strikingly new." − Ernest R. Hilgard, Ph.D. (1904-2001), Professor of Psychology, Stanford University

"When Julian Jaynes...speculates that until late in the second millennium B.C. men had no consciousness but were automatically obeying the voices of gods, we are astounded but compelled to follow this remarkable thesis through all the corroborative evidence..." − John Updike, in The New Yorker

"Some of Jaynes' original ideas may be the most important of our generation . . . And I feel weak as I try to convey some slight impression of Jaynes' fantastic vision in this short review. Not since Freud and Jung has anyone had the daring and background to pull together such a far reaching theory." − Ernest Rossi, Ph.D., Professor of Neuroscience, in Psychological Perspectives

"... Scientific interest in [Jaynes's] work has been re-awakened by the consistent findings of right-sided activation patterns in the brain, as retrieved with the aid of neuroimaging studies in individuals with verbal auditory hallucinations." − Jan Dirk Blom, M.D, Ph.D., in A Dictionary of Hallucinations

"One's first inclination is to reject all of it out of hand as science fiction, imaginative speculation with no hard evidence; but, curiously, if one is patient and hears out the story (Jaynes's style is irresistible) the arguments are not only entertaining but persuasive." − George Adelman, Department of Brain & Cognitive Sciences, MIT, in Library Journal

"Genes affecting personality, reproductive strategies, cognition, are all able to change significantly over few-millennia time scales if the environment favors such change — and this includes the new environments we have made for ourselves, things like new ways of making a living and new social structures. ... There is evidence that such change has occurred. ... On first reading, Breakdown seemed one of the craziest books ever written, but Jaynes may have been on to something." − Gregory Cochran, Ph.D., Adjunct Professor of Anthropology at the University of Utah

"He is as startling as Freud was in The Interpretation of Dreams, and Jaynes is equally adept at forcing a new view of known human behavior." − Raymond Headlee, in American Journal of Psychiatry

"[Jaynes's] description of this new consciousness is one of the best I have come across." − Morris Berman, Ph.D., in Wandering God: A Study in Nomadic Spirituality


16 posted on 07/22/2010 8:13:38 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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I was fascinated some years back when I encountered the phenomanon of right and left brain. Then I had a boss with a brilliant left brain and a thoroughly fxxxed up right brain. I spent 3 years pulling him out of stupid messes that his right brain kept getting him into. On the other hand we accomplished some good things with his left brain (and mine). ;-)


17 posted on 07/22/2010 10:53:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nice find. :-)

Someday, when I retire, I’d like to work on a dig site in Eastern Europe.


18 posted on 07/23/2010 4:16:03 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: Colvin

‘That phony with his fake pyramid is screwing up archaeology in the Balkans. ‘


19 posted on 07/23/2010 5:16:06 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So does this mean that aliens showed us how to build terraces, or that human minds work the same the world over?


20 posted on 07/23/2010 7:07:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Milk carton: Picture of my tagline.)
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