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Losing friends over Palin (Have you ever lost friends over politics ?)

Posted on 05/31/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

I have lost THREE real life friends now in trying to defend Sarah Palin. On one hand I tend to think the people who call her stupid are not the kind of people I even want as friends anyhow. However, I wonder if im being too harsh and going too far.

I know our country was divided on President Bush. But the division and the hatred for Sarah Palin has been able to top anything. Before Palin, I had a much more positive outlook on people (especially women, mothers, ect) and life in general. Now I find myself seeing people through a totally different lens.

I understand why I am so outraged as a husband and father of two girls. But what is wrong with WOMEN in this country ? they have really let Sarah Palin and her family down by not standing up enough and drawing a line in the sand.


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To: DoughtyOne

Ohhh, the drama......


381 posted on 06/02/2010 2:00:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


382 posted on 06/02/2010 2:00:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Proving my point with each post......


383 posted on 06/02/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


384 posted on 06/02/2010 2:04:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Not Palin but Barry Soetoro the Kenyan, Narcissist, Marxist, YES! I will never speak to my sister in law again, she voted for him. I won’t do any business with anyone that I know voted for him either. I have no close friends that voted for him. In fact I have no friends at all that voted for him, they would be considered an aquaitance.


385 posted on 06/02/2010 2:06:28 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sound, fury, and bandwith.....


386 posted on 06/02/2010 2:06:41 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


387 posted on 06/02/2010 2:09:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne
Ah yes, the Goebbels principle. Repeat ad nauseum.

It allows serious inquiry to be deflected.

388 posted on 06/02/2010 2:31:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


389 posted on 06/02/2010 2:35:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne
*Looks nervously over shoulder for stalker*

:-)

390 posted on 06/02/2010 3:23:56 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


391 posted on 06/02/2010 3:24:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: Lakeshark

Ooooh, this is exciting..........


392 posted on 06/02/2010 3:26:09 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


393 posted on 06/02/2010 3:47:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: xsmommy

Explain.

What did Sarah Palin ever do to be hated and polarizing ?

I think she wants to be President. What did she do that was so terrible ? ?Will she have to take all of this to her grave with her ?

The way I see it. If they have succeeded in destroying her. There are other Sarah Palins out there who will turn away from politics. And that is a terrible thing for this country.

Let me tell you right now. I have dreamed of being in politics. I have dreamed of being President since I was a little kid. If Sarah Palin is too “polarizing” to be President, I would have no chance in hell to be anything. Because I am passionate. If you are right, why in the hell should I enter politics ? Why would any conservative ?


394 posted on 06/02/2010 4:07:40 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: Lakeshark
*Looks nervously over shoulder for stalker*

You rang?

395 posted on 06/02/2010 4:08:26 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: mojitojoe
I won’t do any business with anyone that I know voted for him either.

Me either. It's to the point where not only are we asking small businesses we use if they hire illegal aliens, but whom they voted for! Maybe not quite directly about the voting, don't want to be too rude, but it comes out eventually. Luckily, we've been spot on so far about who we're using...

396 posted on 06/02/2010 4:11:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

what is the point of asking WHY? It IS what it IS. She IS a polarizing figure. It’s lamentable that they attacked and demonized her. We can analyze it 9 ways to Sunday, but what would be the point of it, it’s reality. It’s UNJUST, that’s a given. Yes, it will serve as a deterrent to others seeking office. Again— lamentable, unjust etc. It’s reality. will she have to take it to the grave? probably not. She is young and has plenty of time to do things, make her mark etc. and time may soften how she is perceived.
i am just telling you what i see. people i know who are NOT liberals, not particularly politically inclined at all, but who vote republican, HAVE bought into the MSM BS about her. My 15 yo daughter’s friend was over and was maligning her. i was surprised. i know her parents are not liberals, and they vote republican. she clearly heard it at home. THOSE are the kinds of people who need to brought into the fold, if she has any prayer of being elected. They are nowhere near accepting of her at this point. That doesn’t mean they won’t ever be.
And as far as you dreaming of being president since you were little, well that just kind of creeps me out. Bill Clinton did the same. I don’t want people like that running the country. I’d rather have someone who wants NO part of the job, but takes it reluctantly.
I have absolutely NO idea who our nominee will be, i have no idea who i even WANT our nominee to be. But it damn well be someone who can WIN it convincingly, because the stakes are way too high to risk losing this time.


397 posted on 06/02/2010 4:25:07 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

It is ok to have dreams. I would love to go into politics because I want to make this country a better place. And I hate the establishment we have now. I hate the way our government is being used to abuse our financial freedoms and other things.

If you are right. There is no hope for this country. Because they will do what they did to Sarah Palin to anyone who shares her values and beliefs. How are we ever going to get ANY conservative elected ever again ?


398 posted on 06/02/2010 4:32:31 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Do you doubt that I am right? Do you think that the leftists, the MSM, etc. WON’T attempt to destroy any conservative candidate? As far as getting a conservative elected, you have to get some independents and liberals to buy into the conservative candidate— or at least, hope that Obama has so totally screwed things up that people are fearful of allowing him 4 more years.
If you are interested in politics, obviously you should start locally. Where in Southeast Ohio are you? I have family in Warren.


399 posted on 06/02/2010 4:43:53 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

The sad thing is, I defend Palin against the media whores. If they are unfair to her, I step in. My only beef with her was stepping down from her job, supporting McCain for re-election, supporting Fiorina, and stating she agreed with McCain’s immigration stance.

This isn’t about electability for me, as much as it is about whether she fully gets why the things that bother me about her do.

I really don’t wish to support someone who doesn’t.


400 posted on 06/02/2010 4:58:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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