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It Was Brawn Over Beauty in Human Mating Competition, Anthropologist Says
ScienceDaily ^ | May 13, 2010 | Penn State

Posted on 05/22/2010 9:00:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

"Other animals have antlers or long canines and claws," said Puts. "Why don't we have them?"

According to Puts, men do have weapons. They make them. Bows and arrows, spears, knives -- men have always manufactured weapons.

Other male traits also seem to imply competition. Males have thicker jawbones, which may have come from men hitting each other and the thickest-boned men surviving. Competition may explain why males have more robust skulls and brow ridges than women...

According to Puts, humans and chimpanzees create male coalitions that are often strengthened by kinship. Coalitions can help males defend females from other males. However, when external forces are absent, these same males can compete with each other for mates.

These ideas may seem to paint a rather bleak picture of human nature with men duking it out among themselves for most of human evolution.

"Things are different for us now in many ways," said Puts. "It's heartening to think that human behavior is flexible enough that the right social institutions can increase equality and peace."

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1 posted on 05/22/2010 9:00:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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The Duh Award for this week goes to this article. :')
"It's heartening to think that human behavior is flexible enough that the right social institutions can increase equality and peace."
It's rather obvious to think that human behavior brought about "the right social institutions" in the first place. Except in the Moslem world.

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2 posted on 05/22/2010 9:02:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Then we became civilized which allowed the woosie men with the thin crania housing the underpowered brains to survive which gave rise to the Democrats.


3 posted on 05/22/2010 9:03:15 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: SunkenCiv

You can see this played out in country/western bars on the weekend.


4 posted on 05/22/2010 9:07:04 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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way better headline, same general story: von stuck two men fighting over a woman
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5 posted on 05/22/2010 9:07:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Farmer Dean

“Do not eat the big white mint”


6 posted on 05/22/2010 9:08:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
"According to Puts, men do have weapons. They make them. Bows and arrows, spears, knives -- men have always manufactured weapons"

This guy is completely out of his tree. In evolutionary terms, weapon-making abilities haven't been around long enough to affect biological capabilities males would have evolved before.

If lions had developed - at the same time as humans - the ability to create weapons, they wouldn't have the powerful jaws and teeth they have today?

Rubbish.

7 posted on 05/22/2010 9:09:23 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (FREE ARIZONA!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cue, “The Jimmy Castor Bunch”

What we’re gonna do right here is go back, way back, back into time.
When the only people that existed were troglodytes...cave men...
cave women...Neanderthal...troglodytes. Let’s take the average
cave man at home, listening to his stereo. Sometimes he’d get up,
try to do his thing. He’d begin to move, something like this:
“Dance...dance”. When he got tired of dancing alone, he’d look
in the mirror: “Gotta find a woman gotta find a woman gotta find a
woman gotta find a woman”. He’d go down to the lake where all the
woman would be swimming or washing clothes or something. He’d look
around and just reach in and grab one. “Come here...come here”.
He’d grab her by the hair. You can’t do that today, fellas, cause
it might come off. You’d have a piece of hair in your hand and she’d
be swimming away from you (ha-ha). This one woman just lay there,
wet and frightened. He said: “Move...move”. She got up. She was a
big woman. BIG woman. Her name was Bertha. Bertha Butt. She was one
of the Butt sisters. He didn’t care. He looked up at her and said:
“Sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me
sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me!”. She looked down on him.
She was ready to crush him, but she began to like him. She said
(falsetto):
“I’ll sock it to ya, Daddy”. He said: “Wha?”. She said (falsetto):
“I’ll sock it to ya, Daddy”. You know what he said? He started it way
back then. I wouldn’t lie to you. When she said (falsetto)
“I’ll sock it to ya, Daddy” he said “Right on! Right on! Hotpants!
Hotpants! Ugh...ugh...ugh”.


8 posted on 05/22/2010 9:10:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv

Even if it has Obama’s face printed on it?


9 posted on 05/22/2010 9:12:07 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dfwgator

Wasn’t it beauty that killed the beast?


10 posted on 05/22/2010 9:15:15 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SunkenCiv
Males have thicker jawbones, which may have come from men hitting each other

Probably due more to biting and gnawing (on tough meat for food) than getting hit in the jaw.

11 posted on 05/22/2010 9:16:03 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Opportunity is missed...because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work--Thomas Edison)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Genes play a part, but violence may be viral
by Tom Siegfried
Nov. 11, 2002
Dallas Morning News
The apparent implication is that dopamine and serotonin genes play an important role in aggressive violence. But genes cannot be the whole story of violence in the animal kingdom. Consider baboons, for instance. In the wild they are normally peaceful and live in harmony with their fellow primates. But after associating with humans for a while, baboons turn nasty. They attack each other rather viciously, in fact, sinking their fangs into the most sensitive of body regions. Females try to bite the tails off of other females... In the violent ones, a brain region called the superior temporal gyrus seems enlarged on the left side. In peaceful baboons that region seemed larger on the right side of the brain. For some reason, the violent baboons' brains become modified in a way that promotes aggression.
The Scars of Evolution
by Elaine Morgan
"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"

12 posted on 05/22/2010 9:18:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Okay, okay, just please, no Tyson pics. ;’)


13 posted on 05/22/2010 9:19:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

In my experiences, the one with the largest wallet wins.


14 posted on 05/22/2010 9:19:54 AM PDT by gigster
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To: SunkenCiv
These ideas may seem to paint a rather bleak picture of human nature with men duking it out among themselves for most of human evolution.

If he draws this conclusion because of jaw size, he is probably incorrect.

Furthermore, it sounds like the writer is a liberal sissy who somehow thinks the Marquis of Queensbury rules were applied. Why "duke it out" when you can just bash someones' skull in with a club?

That said, I don't think the idea of duking it out is at all bleak...some men like to duke it out (me included).

15 posted on 05/22/2010 9:22:29 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Opportunity is missed...because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work--Thomas Edison)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


16 posted on 05/22/2010 9:25:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: gigster

Then why is George Costanza such a loser? ;’)


17 posted on 05/22/2010 9:26:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Where do they come up with these “scientists?”

If you keep telling the same lie over and over it is amazing how many people will check their brains at the door to go drink at the bar of public stupidity.


18 posted on 05/22/2010 9:27:12 AM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: SunkenCiv

We are sure screwing up human evolution now. The whole of the human race will suffer more and more for it as things “progress” and the weakest in body, mind, and morals among us are lifted up and catered to. What we are witnessing right now is exactly the same deconstruction of man that has occurred in so many of human civilizations. We have become arrogant, trading our natural strengths for conceptional ones that will not serve us in the event our carefully crafted modern cages with electricity, running water, plenty of food and cable tv break down. The good thing is the dominant genetic traits are always there waiting to re-emerge just as are the “backward” people who are just backward enough to reestablish a semblance of culture over hedonism once everything goes to hell.


19 posted on 05/22/2010 9:29:08 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Tyranny thrives when the people are silent.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
I think there was a topic about this as well, but here's what I had on the drive.
20 posted on 05/22/2010 9:29:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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