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Obama is not a Native US Citizen
Bouvier's Law Dictionary ^ | 1928 | William Edward Saldwin

Posted on 05/14/2010 3:21:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1

Meandering through my 1928 Edition of Bouvier's Law Dictionary on page 833, Native, Native Citizen is defined:

Those born in a country, of parents who are citizens.

If Obama does not meet the standards of a native citizen how can he be a natural born citizen.


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The definition continues: There is no distinction between native born...and..natural born.

Here is the copy of John Jay's letter to George Washington stating..only a natural born citizen be given command of the American Army

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Lets go to the Colonial period in Virginia depicting the difference between a native born and an English born immigrant:

"The society that developed in the Chesapeake was so unique that British officials often made explicit distinctions between the English-born and the “natives” or "creoles” born in Virginia.

A trend developed where native-born whites were increasingly singled out by English writers as “natives,” “Virginians,” and “creoles” as they achieved dominance in a colonial government previously controlled by English-born immigrants"

page 11 http://research.history.org/Files/Archaeo/ResPubs/Ethnicity%20and%20Identity%20Formation.pdf

Obama is not a native, native born or natural born citizen in the US.

1 posted on 05/14/2010 3:21:19 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

http://research.history.org/Files/Archaeo/ResPubs/Ethnicity%20and%20Identity%20Formation.pdf


2 posted on 05/14/2010 3:22:00 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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I don’t know whether or not he’s a US citizen but I DO KNOW that he’s NOT AN AMERICAN.


3 posted on 05/14/2010 3:23:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Politics is only about money and the power to control it. ALL of it!)
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To: bushpilot1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHxb_vZe7Ao&feature=email


4 posted on 05/14/2010 3:26:08 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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Obama does not meet the standards of a native citizen how can he be a natural born citizen.

Amazing! I'll expect this astounding revelation to have him out of office by dark tonight.

No? It won't?

Maybe you should contact a lunatic dentist with this astounding information.

5 posted on 05/14/2010 3:27:02 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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It was very clever for probammies to deflect this issue to simply citiizenship rather than natural born citizenship. The latter is easily resolved, he isn’t an NBC, the former may be true but we cannot know until we see the long form.

Regardless, this issue will not send him out on his arse.....it would have happened by now.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 3:30:14 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (END THE WAR ON LIBERTY!)
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To: bushpilot1

If a female American citizen has a baby in the U.S., does that make the child an American citizen?


7 posted on 05/14/2010 3:35:00 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ditto that.


8 posted on 05/14/2010 3:36:01 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: HerrBlucher

Actually, by what authority does he have to seal his records? If he can’t prove his eligibility,(by releasing the long form), then he shouldn’t have the authority to seal any of his records.

Blame Pelosi. Didn’t she sign the paper certifying that he was eligible to be the candidate. Did she see the long form? Maybe we should go after her.


9 posted on 05/14/2010 3:36:15 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: bushpilot1
I'll give you a serious answer and that is the Supremes want to avoid this issue like the plague. Unlike the justices in Honduras, the court here will not step in to say the President should be removed.

I for one believe he was born in Hawaii. This is because I am sure Hillary had his FBI file in the back of her closet and it would have come out if he really wasn't. That would end the discussion for the vast majority of people because they interpret "natural born" as being born in the US as opposed, I guess, to being adopted. However, as you are pointing out it is a legal term of art that conveys a different meaning than what is the common interpretaion. The court could agree that it meant born of US parents but no judge is wanting to take that step for fear of igniting riots.

10 posted on 05/14/2010 3:39:29 PM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: bushpilot1

William Edward Baldwin is correct.

Bouvier’s Law Dictionary may be protected by copyright law.


11 posted on 05/14/2010 3:44:33 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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Some crackpot judge will deem that his tenure as POTUS qualifies him a citizen retroactively.

Or some such nonsense.


12 posted on 05/14/2010 3:45:20 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: humblegunner

I see the AFTER-birther hookers on crack are already here.


13 posted on 05/14/2010 3:46:40 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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hookers on crack are already here.

Tell your mom it's dinner time and get her away from the computer.

14 posted on 05/14/2010 3:48:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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Hey! Let’s get some BO re-distribution of crack movement going!


15 posted on 05/14/2010 3:49:22 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: anniegetyourgun

The point is not whether he’s a citizen (although even that’s in doubt) but whether he’s what is required to be President - a natural born citizen. And, quite clearly, on this definition he’s not. It requires someone to be born in the U.S.A. of U.S. citizen parents. Quite patently Obama fails this test. The birth certificate is irrelevant in this regard.

I live in Australia and used to think that this requirement, falling as it does on someone’s background something they have no control over, was unfair and unreasonable. I’ve now changed my mind.

In any case, its not what anyone thinks of it, its what it is unless and until its changed and HE FAILS THE TEST.


16 posted on 05/14/2010 3:53:21 PM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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Some persistent freepers have noticed this fact but it seems to get lost in the noise on the various bc threads. By his own admission, Barack’s father was a Kenyan born British national, a foreigner, ergo Barack cannot be a natural born citizen, and was therefore never qualified to hold the office of President of the United States. No verbal contortions or legal arguments can change those simple facts, and it's Obama’s achilles heal. It's also the basis to have Nancy Pelosi ejected from the Senate and possibly face criminal prosecution for fraudulently certifying his eligibility. A crime of monumental proportions has been committed on the people of the United States.
17 posted on 05/14/2010 3:55:38 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: humblegunner

Too funny, AFTER-birthers are so sensitive.


18 posted on 05/14/2010 3:58:48 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

BINGO!


19 posted on 05/14/2010 3:58:58 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: humblegunner
Maybe you should contact a lunatic dentist with this astounding information.

lol!

20 posted on 05/14/2010 4:01:37 PM PDT by Jean S
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