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Bird molecules challenge to Moa's Ark theory [LOL!]
PhysOrg | May 4, 2010 | Provided by Massey University

Posted on 05/06/2010 5:24:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The so-called "Moa's Ark" theory - that New Zealand's animal and plant life has evolved largely untouched over 80 million years since the Gondwana supercontinent broke up - is being challenged by new molecular evidence from native birds.

Dr Steve Trewick and Gillian Gibb, from the Institute of Natural Resources, have carried out a review of the molecular phylogenetic evidence for New Zealand's bird life...

According to the review of the data, Dr Trewick says we must continue to rethink the way the biota (animal and plant life) developed and recognise that it has changed considerably over time. "Many New Zealand birds are ecologically very distinctive," he says, "But the makeup of the avifauna is composite and mixed in space and time. A very high proportion of birdlife in New Zealand has its origins in Australia, but others come from various other parts of the Pacific or northern regions."

This observation supports the hypotheses of eminent biologists of the 1950-1970s, including Sir Charles Fleming and Robert Falla. It is also consistent with emerging understanding of the formation of the New Zealand islands, which are much younger than the separation of the now largely submerged Zealandia micro-continent from Australia and Antarctica about 80 million years ago.

Some species are so like those in Australia they cannot be distinguished even with molecular data. At the other extreme are some that certainly share ancestors with Australian species but are very different. For example, the giant eagle evolved within the last two million years and is most closely related to a small Australian eagle.


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: australia; godsgravesglyphs; moasark; newzealand
Dr Steve Trewick

1 posted on 05/06/2010 5:24:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/06/2010 5:26:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Life spreads, no matter where it’s tried. :-)


3 posted on 05/06/2010 5:29:18 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 05/06/2010 5:29:32 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv

Moa’s Auk? Great!


5 posted on 05/06/2010 5:41:15 PM PDT by decimon
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To: fanfan

My waistline is exhibit A!


6 posted on 05/06/2010 5:48:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: decimon

LOL!


7 posted on 05/06/2010 5:48:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
LOL! Great title!

Hey, Fred, who was the genius who put those friggin' eagles on the Ark with us???

8 posted on 05/06/2010 5:50:16 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL, now you want to discuss gravity?

I’m female. Don’t talk to me about gravity. ;-)


9 posted on 05/06/2010 6:14:53 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

;’)


10 posted on 05/06/2010 7:19:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: colorado tanker

They must have made a fowl stench.


11 posted on 05/06/2010 7:20:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
molecular evidence from native birds

My guess is that a bird molecule is made from a complex string of feather atoms (low atomic weight, you know)combined with a small number of meat ions and bone atoms.

That's just a guess.

12 posted on 05/06/2010 8:01:07 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: fanfan

Weight for it....


13 posted on 05/06/2010 8:59:00 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 469 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I recognized your . . . .

14 posted on 05/07/2010 11:25:45 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
Arrrgh! I'll try again.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 11:42:43 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: TN4Liberty

Probably so, but in that case, what *weighs* more, a mole of feather atoms, or a mole of bone atoms? ;’)


16 posted on 05/07/2010 3:11:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: colorado tanker

I’m getting the “hosted by Tripod” image instead. :’(


17 posted on 05/07/2010 3:15:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: null and void
Weight for it....

I don't have to...it's catching up with me. ;-)

18 posted on 05/07/2010 3:56:34 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: SunkenCiv
It was the scene from Star Wars where Leia is taken to Moff Tarkin by Vader and says “I recognized your foul stench . . .” Then I found the Family Guy parody and thought that looked pretty funny too.
19 posted on 05/07/2010 4:28:54 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

:’) Thanks!


20 posted on 05/07/2010 8:34:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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