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1 posted on 05/01/2010 7:28:47 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

FASCINATING.

THANKS.


2 posted on 05/01/2010 7:52:19 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

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3 posted on 05/01/2010 8:12:53 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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4 posted on 05/01/2010 9:14:08 PM PDT by Chode
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ping


5 posted on 05/01/2010 9:14:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Is there anything, anything, that was made in the 1300s that we can't make today?

If that is the case, and I believe it is, why is it we can't figure out a way to reproduce the shroud? Is it because it's not a fake? No, that is just too much for the skeptics to fathom. And so they keep imagining dark rooms with Michelangelo and some knowledge of photography and evey with all that they still can't make something with all the qualities of the shroud. It's a great, wonderful relic.

6 posted on 05/01/2010 9:24:44 PM PDT by Defiant (De-fund the left. Refund the American taxpayer.)
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It’s just Medieval forgery by a painter who knew how to paint on single fibers on two surfaces.

The 1988 carbon-dating test PROVED that!


10 posted on 05/01/2010 10:22:08 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Had not heard this before. Thanks. Wow.


12 posted on 05/01/2010 10:37:52 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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My faith doesn’t put any store in relics and such, so whether it’s authentic or not, or supernatural or not, does not weigh all that heavily upon me.

But, it’s striking that the critics of the historical claims associated with the shroud are sounding less and less credible.

I guess the flip side of the coin is true as well: my faith is not threatened by the shroud being genuine, unlike certain materialists.


14 posted on 05/01/2010 10:43:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Berlin_Freeper
 
 
 
Science Dictionary
corona discharge  
"An electrical discharge characterized by a corona, occurring when one of two conducting surfaces (such as electrodes) of differing voltages has a pointed shape, resulting in a highly concentrated electric field at its tip that ionizes the air (or other gas) around it. Corona discharge can result in power loss in the transmission of electric power, and is used in photocopying machines and air-purification devices. See also electric arc."
 
 
Interesting, but I don't think Fanti and Maggiolo are breaking any new ground here. I remember a report years ago by some scientists who said that the shroud was scorched by an unidentified burst of energy, even giving a basic rundown on how that would have affected the shroud fibers. 
 
I had always wondered about Jesus's warning to Mary Magdalene in John 20:17 to not touch or to hold Him. When she recognized Jesus and got excited, the first thing He said was a warning not to "hold" or "touch" Him - possibly to keep Mary back due to it being dangerous for a mortal in the flesh to have physical contact with Him at that particular time for some reason? Others have interpreted the passage as a gentle command to a grieving Mary to not fret and try to prevent Him from leaving.
 
 
However it was done, the fact remains that something very unusual happened to that stretch of cloth.
 
 

19 posted on 05/02/2010 12:20:43 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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ping


28 posted on 05/02/2010 6:43:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This was reproduced on TV through an experiement.

The shroud is a FAKE.

Don’t buy into this.


30 posted on 05/02/2010 6:52:51 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: betty boop

Ping!


35 posted on 05/02/2010 8:11:53 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Berlin_Freeper
It may well be what it appears to be.

However it must not be worshiped like some golden calf.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

37 posted on 05/02/2010 8:27:24 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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38 posted on 05/02/2010 8:29:47 AM PDT by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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To: Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...
New Shroud Thread PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.


60 posted on 05/02/2010 12:38:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

bump


61 posted on 05/02/2010 12:56:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Shroud of Turin ping.


70 posted on 05/02/2010 1:59:19 PM PDT by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ah, Leonardo....


73 posted on 05/02/2010 2:26:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t need this relic, or anything else for that matter, to believe.

It’s called “faith” because you have to believe on faith, and nothing else.

IMHO...


77 posted on 05/02/2010 2:55:08 PM PDT by airborne ("It's a great day for hockey!" - 'Badger' Bob Johnson (RIP))
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/face-jesus-revealed-10248139

"Is this the face of Jesus"? for those of you who may have missed this last month - you can get the DVD -

worth it

80 posted on 05/02/2010 3:02:45 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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