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OK, I HAVE AVOIDED THE BIRTHER ISSUE UNTIL WATCHING ANDERSON COOPER TONIGHT . . .

Posted on 04/21/2010 8:28:03 PM PDT by MrChips

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But the adamancy in his voice bothered me. Why is he so exercised about it if that is really true?...because lefties get a lot of mileage out of making adamant, authoritative, absolutist statements - like Paul Krugman's in a post a while back that in spite of a few problems healthcare in Great Britain is really quite good - and sound so assured and convinced of what they say that people are afraid to challenge them and just accept that they're correct - if a few more who don't agree would simply look them in the eye and say very authoritatively "That's Bul* Shi*", we'd probably have a lot fewer of the wild accusations and demonizations that we've been hearing lately.....
41 posted on 04/21/2010 8:54:48 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: PizzaDriver

The most secretive admininstration in history.


42 posted on 04/21/2010 8:55:21 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: steve86

. . . a good word, indubitably. :-)


43 posted on 04/21/2010 8:57:35 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

The one in Hawaii?

From what I understand, all anyone has seen is a jpg on a website.


44 posted on 04/21/2010 8:57:52 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: MrChips
Should the Republicans be fortunate enough to win both houses this November, I have a suggestion that they write a bill that would resolve whether a candidate is qualified for political offices. If they can get it passed, Obama would be hard pressed not to sign it, and/or there could be later consequences. The proposed law would be:

1) Whatever candidate that runs for office, with special qualifications required, would have to have HIS/Her Party CERTIFY that the candidate meets ALL requirements for qualification. A candidate so CERTIFIED CAN NOT be challenged.

2) Should evidence appear that the candidate IS NOT QUALIFIED, The candidate/office holder would be removed from office and his Party penalized (such as with loss of donor tax deduct ability) for a TBD period of time. The penalty would be applied at time of discovery and verification, regardless of when it occurs (including after the term is served) The certifying Party would be penalized and in case of the president, that presidency annulled.

Such a law would not be targeting anyone and it would become effective for the 2012 election.

45 posted on 04/21/2010 8:59:02 PM PDT by NJJ (Obama:Rebuilding of America=WW II:Rebuilding of Europe)
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To: streetpreacher
"Probably a hamster."

Not to split hairs, but I believe gerbils are their rodent of choice.

46 posted on 04/21/2010 8:59:59 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: MrChips

I didn’t watch that show, but I agree that Anderson Cooper shouldn’t get worked up about this.

What did the Arizona person say? Something like, “I agree, but no reasonable person could disagree with what we’re doing.
Hopefully when Obama gives Arizona and other states his birth certificate this whole birther thing will go away. We’re with you. We’re helping Obama put this birther thing to rest.”


47 posted on 04/21/2010 9:00:31 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: manonCANAL

OH MY GOD! I just realized that this bill would apply in 2012! :-)


48 posted on 04/21/2010 9:00:37 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Nope - never watch the commie news network. Wish someone would ask these people how come they assume that this law has something to do with Obama. It just says all candidates must show documentation to prove their eligibility. What’s wrong with that?

Seem to me they have just corrected an oversight. If Obama’s certificate has already been proven-what’s the beef? If that is true, it should be easy to produce in 2012.


49 posted on 04/21/2010 9:01:10 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MrChips; STD

Only children born from the union of two US citizen’s is elgible to become our president.

“Is that true? I have never heard that angle.”

Neither have I. Some how I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. If it were the case, the “birther” movement wouldn’t exist because there would be no need to be questioning Obama’s birth place or the validity of any birth certificate.


50 posted on 04/21/2010 9:03:30 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Sort of my thought, too. I think you just have to be born here.


51 posted on 04/21/2010 9:04:42 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Here’s a good article to start with.

“History answers the question of what “natural born citizen” means, and leaves NO wiggle room for debate or wishful agenda-driven interpretations.

The term was first used by the British Royal family. The question at the time was how to keep the Royal bloodline intact when members of the Royal family traveled abroad extensively, often giving birth to offspring while abroad, therefore bringing the issue of “native born” into question.”

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22262


52 posted on 04/21/2010 9:05:02 PM PDT by Hypo
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To: MrChips

Lot’s of evidence to point to the meaning of natural born citizen to require 2 citizen parents, but it has not been definitively decided in a court of law.

Congress could define it with a constitutional amendment, but never has. They did try to define it by statute, but the Supreme Court had some cases that rendered the 1790 statue moot, and it is inactive.


53 posted on 04/21/2010 9:05:08 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Hitler was a leftwinger. The main reason he was called a rightwinger was to draw a distinction between Nazis and Communists. Nazis, Communists, Fascists, etc. are all big government, left wing, types of government.

Nazi is short for National Socialism.


54 posted on 04/21/2010 9:05:46 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

That’s my point. They’d scream to high Heaven that he’s not qualified.


55 posted on 04/21/2010 9:07:10 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: MrChips
we should be concerned John Paul Jones was: Photobucket
56 posted on 04/21/2010 9:08:15 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: truthfreedom

I agree, but would add.

Fascism was an extreme left of center ideology. But it was still right of Communism. It was the “middle way”, so how could it ever be right of Capitalism?

That’s where the mistake is made, in my opinion.


57 posted on 04/21/2010 9:10:02 PM PDT by Hypo
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To: douginthearmy

it’s always been the law. the Founder’s didn’t want a British spy sneaking into our executive branch. Ooops, a Britisher from Kenya did!


58 posted on 04/21/2010 9:10:16 PM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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To: MrChips
I know, I know, why am I watching PRAVDA

Last I looked, Pravda was much less propagandizing than CNN.

59 posted on 04/21/2010 9:10:29 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Reader_David
I take it you missed out on years 2000 - 2003.

I worked with 2 Ukraines and 1 Siberian, and I finally looked up Pravda to find out where they got their wildly misinformed, insanly anti American stance, and quickly found my answer.

Yes, they made a crack about Obama. They hate ALL Americans, even illegal aliens.

The only worth I found on those pages was what sort of crackpot nonsense my co workers were going to convince me of, so I could let them down gently.

60 posted on 04/21/2010 9:12:00 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Defend America peacefully, vigorously, and swiftly against all enemies before she becomes a memory)
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