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To: MrChips; STD

Only children born from the union of two US citizen’s is elgible to become our president.

“Is that true? I have never heard that angle.”

Neither have I. Some how I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. If it were the case, the “birther” movement wouldn’t exist because there would be no need to be questioning Obama’s birth place or the validity of any birth certificate.


50 posted on 04/21/2010 9:03:30 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Sort of my thought, too. I think you just have to be born here.


51 posted on 04/21/2010 9:04:42 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Kimberly GG

Almost nothing about the constitution is cut and dry these days, cause the left wing loony judges are apt to cobble up anything to get the ruling they want.

There is certainly a good bit of evidence that the term natural born citizen was intended to be used for children born to parents who were both citizens, and under the jurisdiction of the United States, (born in country).

This is an issue about which there could be debate, and it has never been settled in court or constitutional amendment.


64 posted on 04/21/2010 9:20:08 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Well, you only admit to lack of knowledge then. Do you celebrate and bathe in such ignorance, like those who would incessantly demean the “Birthers” such as Anderson Coooper, Bill O’Reilly, Michelle Malkin, and such flackers?

The Founders read Blackstone. Have you read Blackstone?

The Founders read de Vattel. Have you read de Vattel?

The phrase “natural born citizen” was specifically demanded in the requirement for President by George Washington evidently at the suggestion of John Jay. What it meant to those august men was that both parents, at the time of birth, had to be citizens of this country. That the any President must have a natural whole allegiance from birth to this country.


229 posted on 04/22/2010 4:57:53 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Kimberly GG

Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. That is the legal definition of the term, and is the definition that has been used by the Supreme Court in many cases. The issue is not only if Obama was born in Hawaii, but that his father was NOT a US citizen. Obama admits on his own fight the smears website, “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”
If Obama was a “Natural born citizen”, he would NOT be subject to the laws of a foreign nation. He was a British subject the moment he was born, and he is NOT eligible for the Office of President.


276 posted on 04/22/2010 9:40:13 AM PDT by chatter4
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To: Kimberly GG

The founding fathers documented it. It came from Vattel, law of nations. David Ramsay, founding father, documented it.

Obama is the first President Since the founders to openly violate this constitutional requirement.

The constitution has not been amended. It is simply being ignored for historic purposes, and that being the First Marxist President with natural born inherited rights to Kenyan citizenship.


282 posted on 04/22/2010 10:29:47 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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