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SpikeTV AK47 vs. AR15 Vanity
April 18, 2010 | Me

Posted on 04/18/2010 6:50:11 PM PDT by goodwithagun

Informal poll: SpikeTV is showing a Deadliest Warrior rerun. It has the Taliban vs. IRA. The IRA is testing the AR15 against the Taliban with the AK47. I vote for the AK47. I would like to know what you think.


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To: mamelukesabre

lol....


101 posted on 04/19/2010 7:38:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MadJack

Yep, as part of a TEAM with a variety of weapons, an AK is great. Out to about 250 yards max.

But I sure would not choose it to carry if I was alone, especially in open country.

In Afghanistan, of the available off the rack troopie long arms, I’d take a USMC M-16A3 with the 4X ACOG sight. Effective range 600+ yards.


102 posted on 04/19/2010 8:17:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Barrel design.”

How?


103 posted on 04/19/2010 8:51:38 AM PDT by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: goodwithagun

without a doubt, if you are shooting at a distance, the M-16 is the more accurate rifle.

In terms of stopping power at across the street distances, the 7.62x39 wins the race.


104 posted on 04/19/2010 8:57:27 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

this bullpup is yet to be a proven design.


105 posted on 04/19/2010 8:59:33 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: IYAS9YAS
The first time I cranked off a round, everyone around me at the range turned a cautious eye toward me.

When I fire a round, the whole world goes silent...............mostly because I can't hear a thing over the ringing in my ears. Double hearing protection is a must with a Mosin. I love it though- it's a tool, not a toy.

106 posted on 04/19/2010 9:01:24 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
Sure, no one actually uses a bullpup for their security or national defense forces. Much too unproven to do so...
107 posted on 04/19/2010 9:10:51 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Travis McGee

108 posted on 04/19/2010 9:11:23 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Sarajevo
Double hearing protection is a must with a Mosin. I love it though- it's a tool, not a toy.

While trying to shoot from the prone position, my hearing protection kept bumping up against the new stock and every time I cranked off a round, my right ear was uncovered. I'm going to have to re-think that for the next time out and maybe use those foam inserts.

109 posted on 04/19/2010 9:23:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Knitebane

I just have an EOTECH, a BUIS and a laser on mine.


110 posted on 04/19/2010 9:47:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
I have one of these:

It makes bigger holes than the poodle shooter.

111 posted on 04/19/2010 10:02:38 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Travis McGee
But an AK still won’t hit S#!+ at 200+ yards.

I have to take exception to that. We regularly shoot at 300 and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. That said, we're shooting at a known distance. Flatter trajectory prevails at longer unknown distances.

112 posted on 04/19/2010 10:15:34 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: Hammerhead
Bushmaster is making an AK like gas operated system for their AR’s...

That was Bushmaster's stock in trade back before they started doing "me-too" AR's. They've come full circle.

113 posted on 04/19/2010 10:20:53 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

they arent using that kel tec model bullpup..that was in the picture.


114 posted on 04/19/2010 11:10:06 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: Knitebane

Nice FAL. DSA?


115 posted on 04/19/2010 11:39:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: gundog

What kind of groups do you get at 300 yards with your AK? Iron sights? Original or aftermarket?


116 posted on 04/19/2010 11:40:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2banana
The M16 is more accurate than the AK-47

Easily spot on correct. Agreed

The AK-17 will fire when caked in sand and not cleaned for a year while the M-16 will jam if not cleaned daily.

Half correct. The AK47 was designed to be used by illiterate peasants who can't read or write. It was designed to be shot in unclean environments and then washed out in the local streams only to go rock-n-roll at a moment's notice.

However the idea that the M16 is persnickety in the maintenance dept is no longer true. I have heard reports coming back from the 'Stan A.O. (Area of Operations) that indicates the M4 era of weapons will go long periods without cleaning and keep on rockin'! The real difference is between accuracy in the M4 and a more robust cartridge in the AK. NOW, take your pick.

117 posted on 04/19/2010 11:55:41 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: goodwithagun
#1 We really need a thread comparing Sniper Rifles:

Say: Dragunov to Barrett 50, Barrett 96B in .338 Lapua Magnum or the M40A3 used by the USMC (IIRC).

#2 THIS thread needs more gun porn!

118 posted on 04/19/2010 12:00:34 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
The real difference is between accuracy in the M4 and a more robust cartridge in the AK. NOW, take your pick.

I'll say FAL or AR-10.

119 posted on 04/19/2010 12:52:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Travis McGee

I would sure love to have one of those FALs. Right now I couldn’t afford to shoot it much.

I did own an FN model 1949 which is pretty much the same thing with a wood stock and without the quick take down. It was in 7mm Mauser and was a nice rifle. I have read that they cost a fortune to manufacture. All milled parts and all steel except for the stock.


120 posted on 04/19/2010 1:18:05 PM PDT by yarddog
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