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Vanity question

Posted on 02/23/2010 6:35:42 PM PST by lonelawyer

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1 posted on 02/23/2010 6:35:42 PM PST by lonelawyer
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To: lonelawyer

I’d be a Libertarian if it weren’t for all the dope smokin’ at the meetings. ;)


2 posted on 02/23/2010 6:36:55 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nail, meet hammer.


3 posted on 02/23/2010 6:37:58 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: lonelawyer
I'm a "peace through superior firepower" libertarian.

Many posters here tend to have their inner statist show sometimes.
4 posted on 02/23/2010 6:38:38 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: rabidralph

:)


5 posted on 02/23/2010 6:40:25 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: lonelawyer

I would take most anything over the Obammie Marxist.
Savage was excellent on this today.
He had a great explanation on why Obammie is what he is, as Marxist as one can be, having been born to Marxist, and brought up and mentored by no one, other then radical Marxist.


6 posted on 02/23/2010 6:40:47 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: lonelawyer
...libertarians tend to be unrealistically isolationist and don't support the conservative social agenda, but it would seem that we would be natural allies based upon economic policy.

The answer is right there. Life is more important than money.

7 posted on 02/23/2010 6:42:05 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: lonelawyer
It's the Libertarian/Libertine component ~ they give you'all a really bad name.

And besides, for real baby killers, if you like that sort of thing, Democrats can't be beat.

I think it's best the Libertarians go scooting after the people who have the most comparable moral standards ~ and that'd be the trashier sort of Leftwingtards quite frankly.

8 posted on 02/23/2010 6:42:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: lonelawyer; onyx

Another vanity question and it’s been less than two hours when the one regarding bar codes was posed?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2457885/posts


9 posted on 02/23/2010 6:45:01 PM PST by deport (TEXAS PRIMARY -- EARLY VOTING FEB 16 - 26..... Vote today.)
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To: lonelawyer

Libertarians are like conscientious objectors in the war over the future of our society.

No free society is viable in the long term without a solid moral foundation. Libertarians do just fine in a conservative free republic founded on Judeo-Christian principles, as America originally was.

However, neither libertarians nor conservatives can survive in the liberals’ intended totalitarian nanny state where the liberals’s degenerate secular religion intrudes into and controls every facet of the life of every family and every individual.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 6:45:15 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That’s the issue for me as well. They want to selectively decide which behaviors are ok and which aren’t. Abandoning the war on drugs, IMO, is detrimental to the future of America and the Libertarians simply refuse to drop the issue.

If they dropped their anti-drug enforcement issue, coservatives and Libertarians would most likely be on the same page.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 6:47:11 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: lonelawyer

Abortion
Drugs
Property Rights
Etc...


12 posted on 02/23/2010 6:49:21 PM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: lonelawyer

I don’t have anything against Libertarians in general. I just have some major disagreements with many of the extreme elements of the Libertarian Party/Movement. First of all, 9-11 truthers are whackjobs and cannot be tolerated AT ALL. Many of these types support Ron Paul and even though Ron Paul is right about a few things, he’s very wrong on some big issues like his isolationist stances and embracing these kooks.

Libertarians like Stossel, Boortz and Elder don’t bother me at all.

I actually believe in decriminalizing Marijuana... So I find one Social issue in common with many Libertarians there. The Alex Jones Crowd (Many of them Paleo-Cons, I know...) really turn me off. I just can’t stand them. Period. They give Libertarians a bad name and leave me with a bad taste in my mouth every time I have the displeasure of conversing with them.


13 posted on 02/23/2010 6:49:27 PM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: lonelawyer

I wouldn’t say as bad as liberals, but they are different than Conservatives.

There are three pillars to the Conservative platform- Economic, Social, and Defense.

Regarding Economic, yes, there are many agreements and the two parties resemble each other.

Regarding social, Libertarians generally on platform are pro-choice. This is one of those pillar items that Conservatives don’t compromise on. The rights of the individual can’t be superceeded. Some of the 10th Amendment Libertarians don’t seem to get the point of this not being a ‘state’s right’ issue as State’s rights can never trump individual rights (I won’t however, damn those who use the state by state approach as a way to end abortion as some Conservatives do.)

Regarding defense, this is another area where Libertarians and Conservatives part ways. We could have a whole thread on this and I’m preaching to the choir so I won’t repeat it all.

I will throw in that I’ve always seen there being two types of Libertarians, the Bircher types and the Reason types. The latter are far more rational and represent a lot of FReepers. We have our Bircher types but mostly they give Libertarians a bad name.

As Ayn Rand said, Libertarians are “hippies of the right who trade capitalism for anarchy” (paraphrased).

The thing that bugs me is that Libertarians always demand that Conservatives give in some of their values to accept them into the fold or their candidates but they absolutely refuse to give in on any of their positions to be acceptable to Conservatives.


14 posted on 02/23/2010 6:50:05 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I work with a nice bunch of libertarians that don’t do drugs.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 6:50:37 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Will Get Us All Killed)
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To: DustyMoment

I suspect their leadership may not be all that clear-headed on the subject. ;)

Who runs the Libertarian Party, anyway?


16 posted on 02/23/2010 6:50:43 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: deport

Please ping me to the next one also, will ya?


17 posted on 02/23/2010 6:50:47 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: lonelawyer
I have encountered a very small number of Libertarians who claim positions (on immigration, abortion) that I find similar to a Conservative position. But the vast majority of Libertarians I have known over the years have been simply Liberals:

Open the borders, no restrictions on abortion, legal prostitution, legal drugs ... and oh, if we have time, maybe we'll see about shrinking the government. But we may be having too much fun to get around to that.

Libertarians can sometimes talk a good game, but I consider them Liberals who do not understand that government needs to play a role in smoothing the rough edges of society. I don't want the government to do a lot, but I also don't want a social free-for-all either.

18 posted on 02/23/2010 6:51:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: randomhero97

A neo-Libertarian.. I think that’s a great balance. Defense is the one area I can’t give up to the paleo-Libertarians.


19 posted on 02/23/2010 6:51:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: onyx

Okay, but I was throwing this one your way as I was wore out from the other one. Them bars or maybe the codes were getting to me. This one maybe hugh and series so I may just go get in the shower.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 6:52:44 PM PST by deport (TEXAS PRIMARY -- EARLY VOTING FEB 16 - 26..... Vote today.)
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