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The most sacred of cities -- review of David O'Connor's "Abydos: Egypt's First Pharaohs and the...
Al-Ahram Weekly ^ | 28 January - 3 February 2010, issue #983 | Jill Kamil

Posted on 02/03/2010 4:20:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Abydos is situated on the western bank of the Nile about seven kilometres west of the town of Balyana in Middle Egypt. It made its debut on the stage of Egypt's ancient history even before the dynastic period, and it retained its aura of sanctity longer than any other site in Egypt. It houses the tombs and mortuary cult enclosures of the rulers of the First Dynasty. It was the cult centre of Osiris, Egypt's most beloved hero and the central figure of the country's most popular myth. And it is an archaeological site that casts light on the origins of the Egyptian civilisation before the dynastic period, a subject on which scholars argue to this day.

It is a debate which reminds O'Connor, an internationally recognised Egyptologist with 40 years' experience of excavation and research at Abydos, "of Pieter Bruegel's wonderful etching depicting scrambling men gutting an enormous fish. It towers above them while, from the vast and gaping cut, a gigantic stream of smaller fish pours across the beach. Grand theories," he goes on, "as impressive as Bruegel's fish are proposed about early culture and kingship in Egypt, but are based on heterogeneous and random archaeological data, akin to Bruegel's variegated little fish. So far, these data are an inadequate foundation for the complex speculations built upon them, for the evidence... has substantial ambiguities and gaps. Yet the challenge of tracing the origins of one of the world's most brilliant civilisations continues to fascinate us, and Abydos is increasingly important to this endeavour."

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review of this title:

Abydos: Egypts First Pharaohs and the Cult of Osiris Abydos: Egypt's First Pharaohs
and the Cult of Osiris

by David B. O'Connor

unavailable January 2009 edition (?)


1 posted on 02/03/2010 4:20:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Clockwise from top: view of Abydos with cultivated fields in the foreground and hills in the back- ground; map of the early dynasties; Egyptian workers under the supervision of Reis Ibrahim (28 January - 3 February 2010, issue #983)

The most sacred of cities

2 posted on 02/03/2010 4:20:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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3 posted on 02/03/2010 4:22:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Has anyone ever explained the stone staircases which go deep down into the ground water levels even today, that were built during the last Ice Age at Abydos? ... I can see this book must go on my list of requests for the local library.


4 posted on 02/03/2010 4:54:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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IIRC, the strange decending stairs are in the Osirion.


5 posted on 02/03/2010 5:03:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
There aren't any staircases known to be that old. There's an interesting anecdote in Herodotus though. I like Herodotus' sense of perspective and his willingness and ability to think for himself. I added the boldface in the quote for emphasis.
The Histories
by Herodotus
tr by George Rawlinson
Book II -- Euterpe
The Egyptians... told me that the first man who ruled over Egypt was Min, and that in his time all Egypt, except the Thebaic canton, was a marsh, none of the land below Lake Moeris then showing itself above the surface of the water. This is a distance of seven days' sail from the sea up the river... Now if the Nile should choose to divert his waters from their present bed into this Arabian gulf, what is there to hinder it from being filled up by the stream within, at the utmost, twenty thousand years? For my part, I think it would be filled in half the time. How then should not a gulf, even of much greater size, have been filled up in the ages that passed before I was born, by a river that is at once so large and so given to working changes?

...One fact which I learnt of the priests is to me a strong evidence of the origin of the country. They said that when Moeris was king, the Nile overflowed all Egypt below Memphis, as soon as it rose so little as eight cubits. Now Moeris had not been dead 900 years at the time when I heard this of the priests; yet at the present day, unless the river rise sixteen, or, at the very least, fifteen cubits, it does not overflow the lands. It seems to me, therefore, that if the land goes on rising and growing at this rate, the Egyptians who dwell below Lake Moeris, in the Delta (as it is called) and elsewhere, will one day, by the stoppage of the inundations, suffer permanently the fate which they told me they expected would some time or other befall the Greeks.
and for that matter:
The Histories
by Herodotus
tr by George Rawlinson
Book II -- Euterpe
Thus far I have spoken on the authority of the Egyptians and their priests. They declare that from their first king to this last-mentioned monarch, the priest of Vulcan, was a period of three hundred and forty-one generations; such, at least, they say, was the number both of their kings, and of their high-priests, during this interval. Now three hundred generations of men make ten thousand years, three generations filling up the century; and the remaining forty-one generations make thirteen hundred and forty years. Thus the whole number of years is eleven thousand, three hundred and forty; in which entire space, they said, no god had ever appeared in a human form; nothing of this kind had happened either under the former or under the later Egyptian kings. The sun, however, had within this period of time, on four several occasions, moved from his wonted course, twice rising where he now sets, and twice setting where he now rises. Egypt was in no degree affected by these changes; the productions of the land, and of the river, remained the same; nor was there anything unusual either in the diseases or the deaths.

...When Hecataeus, in giving his genealogy, mentioned a god as his sixteenth ancestor, the priests opposed their genealogy to his, going through this list, and refusing to allow that any man was ever born of a god. Their colossal figures were each, they said, a Piromis, born of a Piromis, and the number of them was three hundred and forty-five; through the whole series Piromis followed Piromis, and the line did not run up either to a god or a hero. The word Piromis may be rendered "gentleman."

6 posted on 02/03/2010 5:41:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Doing the math on the Egyptian chronology. 10,000 plus 1,340 equals 11,340. Herodotus was about 400 BC I think, plus 2,100 years equals 2,500 plus 11,340 equals 13,840. When do Firestone, et al say the meteor hit North America (can’t find my copy for some reason)?


7 posted on 02/04/2010 10:23:56 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; SunkenCiv
As stated in the source the founding of the first dynasty was 4700 years ago. The dates derived from Herodotus are most definitely not generally accepted.
8 posted on 02/04/2010 11:21:49 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; gleeaikin

The Egyptians of Herodotus’ time were probably less aware of Egyptian history than living Egyptologists are, OTOH, there’s no solid connection between Narmer and the ancient E’s legendary founder, Min. Interestingly enough, a name that is probably Min occurs in Akkadian records of tribute (perhaps peer-to-peer gifts, or perhaps bribes to keep the Akkadians from kicking the Pharaoh’s and his Egyptians’ asses).

The Sumerian king lists have some apparently nutty overstatements regarding lengths of reigns by early kings; my personal guess is that the ad-hoc systems used by the Sumerians to record numbers (a strange problem to have in a society that created the accounting profession) varied from city to city, and the scribes who made the surviving composite list didn’t have a reliable lexicon, or just assumed later readers would know what they meant. The lists also list dynasties sequentially that are in some cases known to have been contemporary.


9 posted on 02/05/2010 4:39:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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